MBA: Michigan Admissions with Kris Nebel,


MBA: Michigan Admissions with Kris Nebel,
UMBS' Director of Admissions (Nov. 05, 2001)

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Chat Transcript:

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:07:29 PM)
Let's start!

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:07:31 PM)
First I want to welcome you all to Accepted.com's Michigan Admissions Chat.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:07:42 PM)
I also want to welcome Kris Nebel, Director of Admissions; John Senger, second-year student; and Cristina Bonaldes, second year student. Cristina's studies at Michigan have focused on Marketing and Corporate Strategy. John emphasized Finance and Strategy. And last but not least, I want to welcome Paul Bodine and Sonia Michaels, two of Accepted.com's editors.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:07:49 PM)
Thanks to everyone for joining.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:07:58 PM)
We encourage dialogue and discussion, but I would like to suggest a structure to make it easier to follow the threads of conversation. So here is the protocol:

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:08:06 PM)
We will post questions and answers to the chat. If you have a question on that material, please type a "?" and then your question. Our guests, other participants, or I will reply. If one of you wants to comment on the current topic, please jump right in. If you want to start a different topic, please type "?".

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:08:14 PM)
Final request: We would like to avoid the brief summary of qualifications (or even the long laundry list) followed by the question, "Can I qualify?" Or "What are my chances?" This isn't the forum for that kind of analysis.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:08:25 PM)
Other than that limitation, this is your chance to ask questions about Michigan's program and admissions policies. But I would like to take advantage of my position as host and ask the first questions.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:08:41 PM)
How do you evaluate re-applicants? Do you review the old file and the new data sheet and re-applicant essay or just notes from reviewers of the old file?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:09:07 PM)
L - we ask the re-applicants to write a cover letter that describes what they have been doing over the past year.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:09:27 PM)
We look at that along with any new items they provide, along with comments from the review the previous time they applied.

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 9:09:42 PM)
? During my recent visit to UMBS I met several students with engineering backgrounds. If an applicant has a liberal arts education, what majors are favored, if any?

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:09:52 PM)
Are re-applicants at an advantage or disadvantage or neither?

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:10:19 PM)
Marisa- my background is in History, Psych and Sociology...

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:10:26 PM)
I'd say neither. We look at them in the same way, but they have the benefit of possibly having had a feedback session with us.

malvina (ID=32) (Nov 5, 2001 9:10:44 PM)
Do you evaluate profiles of foreign candidates differently from those of American applicants?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:10:48 PM)
M- we have about 30% Engr, but about 25% Lib arts

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:10:48 PM)
The next question is for all of you starting with Cristina and John. If you were to choose 3 attributes you would like to see in Michigan students, what would they be?

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:10:51 PM)
M - Once you're here, it doesn't seem to make much difference.

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:11:13 PM)
?I have already got an MBA. Does it affect negatively my acceptance of UMBS? IF so, what should I do?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:11:32 PM)
Initiative/energy, horsepower, teamwork

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:11:49 PM)
1) Initiative, 2) Passion and 3) Teamwork

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:11:52 PM)
L - willingness to learn, teamwork, and creativity

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:12:01 PM)
Do you resent it or appreciate it when applicants who are wait-listed, write and say "I have heard from School X and have to respond to them by Date Y. Is there any possibility you could give me an answer before Date Y. I would prefer to attend your school."

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:12:03 PM)
7 - You can still apply, but explain why you need another MBA in your essays

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:12:42 PM)
L - We like waitlisted candidates to stay in touch with us, so I welcome that. Watch not to cross the line and contact us TOO much, but stay in touch

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:12:55 PM)
Letters of rec. Do you expect busy recommenders to fill out your specific form? Do you look negatively on letters sent by the recommender to all the schools an applicant is applying to and merely attached to your form?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:13:07 PM)
L - Also be prepared that we cannot give you the answer you want if you have a deadline like that.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:13:40 PM)
L - Well we can't hold too much of it against the applicant, but we expect that they have talked with their rec'r and asked them to answer our questions

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:14:10 PM)
Understood, but merely presenting the question about another offer of admission does not put the applicant at a disadvantage, right?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:14:27 PM)
L- correct - it doesn't put them at a disadvantage

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:14:30 PM)
Christina and John, what do you think is the best and most distinctive aspect of the Michigan experience? What do you think it needs to improve or what is it working to improve?

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:15:08 PM)
Best = the people you're here with. A very talented and diverse group of people.

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:15:35 PM)
Best- opportunity to contribute to the academic environmental in ways already set up and ways that you can design yourself. Also the support of the school.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:15:52 PM)
Kris, what would you say?

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:15:55 PM)
Area of opportunity- Weather! 

Jon (ID=30) (Nov 5, 2001 9:16:00 PM)
? I am a grad student at UM and am applying for a dual-degree with UMBS. Should I use a current professor as a recommendation, or two previous employers? Is one better than the other?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:16:30 PM)
I think the overall culture and atmosphere of Michigan make it a place you can excel but not one that you do it at the expense of others.

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:16:40 PM)
I am considering applying for UMBS and some other business schools. What makes you proud of UMBS most? In what aspects are UMBS stronger than other schools?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:16:50 PM)
Tough part we struggle with is balancing the recruiting with the academics.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:16:59 PM)
It's your turn now. Please post your questions by typing a ? and the question.

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:17:00 PM)
As long as the recommender can speak well to your accomplishments and abilities, it shouldn't really matter. It's not the recommender but what they have to say that is important.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:17:09 PM)
J - use previous employers who can speak to your work.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:17:41 PM)
J - just that profs sometimes are too far removed from your work if it has been a few years.

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:18:25 PM)
UMBS' strength is definitely it's people and the opportunity for you to learn from all of them as you go through all of your classes with them

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 9:18:48 PM)
I am enrolled in an MBA-level Financial Accounting class for this spring. I'm doing this more to prepare myself for the coursework, but I am curious if I would be able to transfer the credit and waive out of FA at UMBS? Would this pose a problem to my learning team if I did waive out?

Chris (ID=33) (Nov 5, 2001 9:19:11 PM)
Does UMBS have any quotas among different countries or areas?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:19:21 PM)
M - You cannot transfer credit but you can try to place out of it.

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:19:34 PM)
Michigan doesn't have learning teams...any groups for classes could change from class to class.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:19:41 PM)
M - you'll be in classes with your core for the rest so it wouldn't present a problem

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:19:47 PM)
Waiving class is both good and bad. You miss out on one class with your core section, but you get the chance to take more electives

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:19:55 PM)
C - we do not have quotas

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:20:08 PM)
?In what aspects are UMBS stronger than other schools?

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:20:31 PM)
I am considering applying for UMBS and some other business schools.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:20:41 PM)
7 - there are a lot of things that differentiate UMBS, but any top school you go to you'll get a great education. It comes down to

SEG (ID=36) (Nov 5, 2001 9:20:50 PM)
?Since the first round deadline has just passed, have you noticed an increase in applications received?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:20:58 PM)
what the approach to mgmnt education is and if it resonates with you - the people the environment, etc

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:21:07 PM)
7 - in the opportunities it presents outside of the classroom. The clubs and other activities are excellent for developing skills that are more than just academic

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:21:22 PM)
Like what John?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:21:26 PM)
We just had our first Decision round on Nov 1.  We are finalizing the numbers (they are getting loaded from Embark into our system), so I won't have final numbers until the middle of this week or so, but our numbers are up. Hard part is none of us will know if apps are up overall until the end of the season. Some of the increase the schools are seeing could be due to eager applicants that are applying sooner. I am also interested to see how the international volume looks, as that will be telling whether the increase is overall or due to domestic applicants, etc.

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:21:35 PM)
Thanks.

malvina (ID=32) (Nov 5, 2001 9:22:17 PM)
?Do you evaluate profiles of foreign candidates differently from those of American applicants?

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:22:17 PM)
L - there are many professional clubs (finance, consulting, marketing, etc) as well as social ones that provide a large part of the "UMBS experience"

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:22:36 PM)
M - we look for the same things in all applicants

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 9:23:04 PM)
? I have international work experience, but only about 6 months worth. How much will this play into getting accepted to an IMAP assignment? What are the real factors to getting accepted for IMAP?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:23:06 PM)
M - there are many aspects from FTWE, scores and academics, goals and reasons for UMBS, extracurricular, etc.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:23:23 PM)
John or Cristina - did you do IMAP

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:23:31 PM)
No, I didn't

Margin (ID=23) (Nov 5, 2001 9:23:39 PM)
? I just changed my job, should I use previous employer as recommender or current employer as recommender?

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:23:41 PM)
I applied for IMAP, but went on to MAP>

FredShen (ID=37) (Nov 5, 2001 9:23:51 PM)
?Hi guys. A question for all of the Michigan representatives: In recent years, many schools have been quick to add and "advertise" e-commerce and entrepreneurial coursework in their curriculum. However, given the recent economic downturn and dot.com bust, how has and will Michigan respond, given its reputation for evolving coursework?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:23:52 PM)
You don't have to have intl exp to be selected for IMAP

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:23:52 PM)
But I don't think having international experience is a requirement

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:24:25 PM)
F - I still think there is value in the entrp and ecommerce learnings.

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:24:40 PM)
it depends on what skills you have to bring to the table and what is needed on the project. EX. If it's in South America and you speak Spanish- you have a better chance of getting an IMAP project.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:24:46 PM)
F - but at Michigan we are able to adapt to the changing bness envr via our 7 wk classes and via MAP

malvina (ID=32) (Nov 5, 2001 9:24:58 PM)
is MAP required? When does it take place? 1st semester or?

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:25:10 PM)
Int'l exp is not one of the skill sets required

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:25:15 PM)
MAP is required and takes place in March and April of the 2nd semester

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:25:22 PM)
F - plus the [lessons] from the bust [are] great fodder for discussion

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:25:42 PM)
?I want to tell more in the essays, can I use more than 500 words in each of the essays? Slightly more, say 600 or 700 words, is fine?

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:25:53 PM)
you can apply to waive it though, although it's part of the Michigan experience

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:26:04 PM)
7 - we'd prefer not. Use the optional essay if you have another topic you want to address.

Paul Bodine (ID=34) (Nov 5, 2001 9:26:27 PM)
When evaluating re-applicants do you have their entire file from the first attempt in front of you?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:26:39 PM)
P - yes if they apply within 2 yrs

malvina (ID=32) (Nov 5, 2001 9:27:07 PM)
Michigan on-line application has limited space to describe work experience. What do I do?

SEG (ID=36) (Nov 5, 2001 9:27:12 PM)
?What percentage of the class comes from each decision round?

FredShen (ID=37) (Nov 5, 2001 9:27:14 PM)
Thanks Kris. I'd be curious to hear what discussions Christina and John have had regarding the learning lessons from the dot.com bust in their classes.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:27:41 PM)
M- is this on the form? you can always add more in the optional area

malvina (ID=32) (Nov 5, 2001 9:27:55 PM)
yes, it is on the form

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:28:13 PM)
SEG - varies each year - we don't have a set amount for each. Depends on the strength of the pool.

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:28:21 PM)
some of the cases in our strat and marketing classes had to do with dot.coms... although there is a good mix of dot.com and brick/mortar companies

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:28:26 PM)
F - the finance classes have certainly made more of the fact that a company needs positive cash flow to survive.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:29:00 PM)
M- in that area you are mainly listing title, pay, reason for leaving, so you shouldn't write too much anyway. But use the optional area if you are running into difficulty.

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:29:01 PM)
you can get more by taking electives that deal directly with tech innovation and management

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:29:25 PM)
Are you seeing little interest in joining start-ups when looking at jobs?

Daisy (ID=17) (Nov 5, 2001 9:29:25 PM)
? I know that Michigan welcomes applicants with long working experience, but I only have 2 years w/e so far. Would you give me some information with the students admitted with short w/e in Michigan, especially from mainland China?

FredShen (ID=37) (Nov 5, 2001 9:29:37 PM)
Thanks John and Christina. I

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:29:45 PM)
D - currently in the class we have folks with FTWE ranging from 1 to 16 years

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:29:56 PM)
I had 3 years.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:29:56 PM)
D - it is less the amount of time and more on what you have done in that time

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:30:04 PM)
L - No. People are still interested, only now they're going for the work and not the quick bucks

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:30:14 PM)
Interesting.

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 9:30:16 PM)
? Christina or John — Did you find the recruiting process in your first year challenging since you were still adjusting to the coursework and transition in time management? Any tips?

Daisy (ID=17) (Nov 5, 2001 9:30:43 PM)
Thanks a lot.

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:31:01 PM)
IN the fall- we had presentations in the evenings....Interviewing didn't start until Feb. when we already had a semester under our belts.

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:31:03 PM)
M - Tip #1: start early! The more you can figure out what you want to do early on, the less stressful it will be later.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:31:31 PM)
Cristina and John are you in the midst of your job search or do you already have jobs lined up? Where did you do internships?

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:32:06 PM)
Interviews are currently going on for 2nd years...I was at Kraft in NY. I am still interviewing.

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:32:09 PM)
?what role does UMBS's interview play in the admission process of UMBS? What qualities does UMBS evaluate in the interview?

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:32:12 PM)
L - I did my internship with DTE Energy Resources in their Strategy/Mergers group. I'm still interviewing

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:32:52 PM)
7 - it is one of the pieces in the whole process. We look for focus, reasons for MBA and UMBS, achievements, interpersonal skills, etc. Much like a job intv

Paul Bodine (ID=34) (Nov 5, 2001 9:33:00 PM)
Do the vast majority of applicants take advantage of the optional essay?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:33:25 PM)
P - it ranges. Don't feel like you have to, but if you have something to say that hasn't been addressed in the essay please do so

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:33:28 PM)
?I am good at reading and so-so at oral English and writing, Does it hurt?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:33:37 PM)
P - also, use it to address any anomalies in your app

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:34:02 PM)
7 - you need to be strong in English so that you can fully participate in the discussions

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:34:11 PM)
7 - oral English is vital

malvina (ID=32) (Nov 5, 2001 9:34:14 PM)
How important is to have extracurricular activities prior to admission to Michigan? Will the absence of extracurr be a problem for being admitted?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:34:40 PM)
M- we look at ex/c since we are looking for folks that will be highly involved at UMBS and after

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:34:50 PM)
What would you recommend to an applicant who has an alumni interview that simply didn't go well? Either the interviewer was pre-occupied, late, harried, or things didn't "click." Should the applicant ask for another interview?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:35:23 PM)
L - we only take one interview every two years, but if we see that it seems totally out of alignment with the rest

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:35:31 PM)
L - then we sometimes reach out and do another

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:35:48 PM)
But you wouldn't recommend that the applicant seek another interview, right?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:35:59 PM)
L - correct - they should stick with the one they have

Jon (ID=30) (Nov 5, 2001 9:36:15 PM)
? What are you looking for in an interview?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:36:16 PM)
L - all interviews whether with alum , in Ann Arbor or by phone are weighted equally

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:36:47 PM)
J - I wrote some above - like a job interview we are looking for good focus, achievements and track record

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:37:05 PM)
j - reasons for MBA and for UMBS in particular, interpersonal skills, etc

FredShen (ID=37) (Nov 5, 2001 9:37:21 PM)
?Where will RJ Dolan take former Dean White's vision for Michigan, specifically impacting incoming 2002 students?

SM (ID=38) (Nov 5, 2001 9:37:28 PM)
?Regarding extra curricular activities - I have lots of it during school and college but very little during working years due to very long working hours. How does this affect the admissions?

test (ID=41) (Nov 5, 2001 9:38:01 PM)
Hi, do you think this year will be tough for those people who has an IT background? Since the recent layoff on the Hi-tech sector?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:38:08 PM)
F - Dolan has done a great job listening to the faculty, students, staff and alums. He views UMBS as a great place (which is why he joined)

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:38:28 PM)
F - and he is looking to enhance the path

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:38:33 PM)
?Does AWA=4.0 low for UMBS?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:38:41 PM)
F - one focus area is around lifelong learning.

MicaSchneider (ID=40) (Nov 5, 2001 9:38:47 PM)
Hi Linda. Hi Kris. Michigan has made a lot of efforts to recruit more women to its MBA programs, but B-school enrollment sits tight around 30% female. Will we ever see even classrooms of men and women? And do women have an advantage this year since they're in such high demand?

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:39:14 PM)
Hi Mica!

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:39:33 PM)
M - We are doing a lot to address the lower representation in MBA programs and I hope we can see a higher percentage at some point, but in

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:39:35 PM)
Test - tough how? Getting admitted or finding a job?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:39:53 PM)
M - my mind we need to raise the applicant numbers if we hope to get more women in the classroom - it isn't about just admitting more

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 9:40:02 PM)
? As a follow-up to Mica's questions, is the percentage of women in the UMBS class on par with the percentage of applicants — meaning less women apply or are the application levels even across genders.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:40:45 PM)
M - we have a much lower percentage of female applicants (25% or so) which makes it hard to get an equal split in the classroom

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:41:06 PM)
although we hold our own!!

test (ID=41) (Nov 5, 2001 9:41:13 PM)
John, I meant a lot of people just lost their jobs, and maybe most of them thinking to go back to school this year instead, do you see a hike on the applicant from IT sector?

FredShen (ID=37) (Nov 5, 2001 9:41:34 PM)
Thanks for your insights, Kris, John, and Christina!

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:41:40 PM)
so true - we have an excellent Michigan Business Women Club and have a fantastic leadership conference every year, among other things in our women's initiative

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 9:41:44 PM)
? Does UMBS plan to do any women-specific recruiting events as they do for other minorities? If there have been some and I missed them, forgive me.

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:41:57 PM)
T - I think that might be the case, but I'm not sure if it will happen that way or not

Paul Bodine (ID=34) (Nov 5, 2001 9:42:09 PM)
What percentage of your students are using the MBA to make a career change?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:42:14 PM)
M - we are hoping to do more, but haven't had the opportunity this year, but we have been on the road quite a bit so hopefully you can see us out there!

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:42:22 PM)
?Does AWA=4.0 too low for UMBS?

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:42:38 PM)
P - I'm not sure of the percentages, but there certainly are quite a few

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:42:43 PM)
7 - it isn't high, but we'll look closely at the essays you wrote for GMAT and in the app

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 9:42:45 PM)
? Can the UMBS/Catalyst study on women and the MBA be made available to applicants? I have tried to get a copy from the Website but can only find a press release.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:43:29 PM)
M - I have to check - we did not mail it out too broadly, as we didn't have unlimited copies. Email me at umbsmba@umich.edu and I can find out for sure.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:43:41 PM)
M - we have been taking a lot of action steps to build on the study

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:44:18 PM)
M - we have been leading the launch of a new nonprofit focused on women in bness.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:44:42 PM)
Other questions?

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 9:44:50 PM)
? Will there be opportunity to do work/research/study through UMBS in the new nonprofit?

Sophie (ID=44) (Nov 5, 2001 9:45:14 PM)
Kris, I've a masters in science, switched from medical research to drug development, and am contemplating intellectual property law—why should I consider b-school as suggested by my brother?

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:45:23 PM)
I'm curious, how many in attendance this evening are residing outside of the US?

test (ID=41) (Nov 5, 2001 9:45:27 PM)
Now, I have a common question to anyone who knows the fact, I constantly see some chart about how high a MBA graduate salary is, my question is what is the salary even before people join the program? Does the school prefer a person earning a fairly decent salary before they join to keep the survey number high afterward?

Daisy (ID=17) (Nov 5, 2001 9:45:34 PM)
? Do I have to retake TOEFL with 603?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:45:44 PM)
M - too early to say as we are in the start up phase, but students have been involved in helping us with the planning and benchmarking, so I would guess there'll be opportunities. So much to get involved with with MBW too

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:46:17 PM)
D - that is just above our min req for the TOEFL, so I would suggest you do an interview with us by phone or in person rather than an alum intv so we can better gauge your English

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:46:29 PM)
T - I think the quality of your work experience is more important than how much money you're making

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:47:16 PM)
S - it depends on what you plan to do in the IP area. We do have a JD/MBA

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:47:40 PM)
T - true - we have folks coming in from the Peace Corp as well as from Wall Street

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:47:42 PM)
Many applicants are concerned about post-MBA prospects. Is Michigan seeming a significant drop in the number of companies recruiting?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:48:08 PM)
L - as with most schools, there has been some drop off in the consulting area especially. Since UMBS is so broad in

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:48:24 PM)
L - our areas of strength, we have a great portfolio of companies recruiting which

Sophie (ID=44) (Nov 5, 2001 9:48:28 PM)
Kris - within IP, I plan on biotech and biopharm policymaking. Would an MBA help and if so, how?

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 9:48:29 PM)
? I noticed on the employment section of the application that there were drop down menus with names of pre-selected companies — many large banks and consulting agencies. If a candidate hasn't worked in a large firm, does it weigh against their application since their place of employment doesn't have an awareness of the quality of work?

MicaSchneider (ID=40) (Nov 5, 2001 9:48:36 PM)
Kris, when B-schools ask applicants about their career goals, is it O.K. for female MBA wannabes to mention that, after taking a job with a such-and-such company, they'd like to take time off to raise a family? How are such essay statements viewed by adcoms?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:48:46 PM)
L - has helped our students have a wide range of co to choose from and has helped with the downturn

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:49:47 PM)
How about for summer internships?

indranil (ID=39) (Nov 5, 2001 9:49:58 PM)
I want to specialize in finance and would like to know the various job opportunities one might have after doing MBA.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:50:03 PM)
M - I am open to that. Would like to hear more on their plans. As with any goal/reason for the MBA, the person should present a solid understanding of what it would take to achieve their goal and discuss how their past experiences and interests, in combination with the MBA, will help them. The MBA does present a lot of flexibility. We currently have some stay-at-home moms in our evening program, and there is a woman in our full-time program. She is an entrepreneur, has a child, and is planning to use the MBA to further her career aspirations as a business owner.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:50:46 PM)
M- owner. With our women's initiative, I'd like to explore the reentry path for women who choose to stay at home

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:50:50 PM)
I - you can get into many different areas, investment banking, corporate finance, treasury, venture capital just to name a few

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:50:58 PM)
M - there should be a way for top schools to play a role in helping women do that

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:51:57 PM)
Marisa - it doesn't matter re the company drop down - that is driven by our Peoplesoft system 

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:51:58 PM)
I - and just about every industry too. All companies need someone to worry about the money.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:52:46 PM)
Kris, As I mentioned to you the other day, I would have loved some "reentry seminars" when I returned to the working world.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:52:53 PM)
Linda - internship recruiting has not been hit as hard. Plus we have some neat opportunities through the school like our William Davidson Institute internships

ana (ID=43) (Nov 5, 2001 9:52:55 PM)
John, how are your classmates who planned to go into the technology industry faring in terms of job offers?

ana (ID=43) (Nov 5, 2001 9:53:10 PM)
Or even companies that are interviewing on campus...

indranil (ID=39) (Nov 5, 2001 9:53:27 PM)
john, how would you compare MBA-finance to a masters in computational finance or a MFE. I can't make up my mind.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:53:36 PM)
Linda - I think it's a great untapped opportunity and one the nonprofit hopes to champion at some point

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:53:39 PM)
Let's hold the questions for a moment and let them catch up.

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:53:46 PM)
A - not too badly considering the economy. Many companies like Dell, Intel, HP, and others have been here recruiting

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:53:52 PM)
Tech companies are still coming and are still hiring- for both full time and internships.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:54:12 PM)
I - you can tap into the financial engr program while at the bness school which is are real quant experience!

Margin (ID=23) (Nov 5, 2001 9:54:15 PM)
? Does Adcom think more of experiences at top 500 or dotcom more than that at a small one

Daisy (ID=17) (Nov 5, 2001 9:54:26 PM)
Kris, I conducted the phone interview with a second year student last month and I don't think I performed well. So I failed to meet the first round deadline in order to do more with my essays. But I still wonder how the interview will hurt my chances?

ana (ID=43) (Nov 5, 2001 9:54:43 PM)
Are there many people that are studying both finance and technology, and if so do you know what kind of career paths they are hoping to follow?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:54:51 PM)
Margin - once again it depends on what you did at the company — sometimes a smaller firm gives you more opportunities — it depends on what you make of it.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:55:19 PM)
D - don't worry too much. If we have a concern we can always reach out and do another with you.

test (ID=41) (Nov 5, 2001 9:55:22 PM)
K & J, another question I had is even people are saying MBA is opening the door for you. How many companies are willing to hire someone that came from one background and try to switch to another sector after grad. And do you normally have to start over again or pay some penalty like pay cut. Say I was doing programming and willing to go for banking sector later.

indranil (ID=39) (Nov 5, 2001 9:55:38 PM)
thanks kris.  So one can go for specialized quant. courses in the business school.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:55:55 PM)
A - at UMBS you really can customize your curriculum and combine areas of interest

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 9:56:00 PM)
?Hi, Kris Nebel. Could you talk something about how to write good essay. What do you value most in the essays for major of entrepreneur? Thanks!

Daisy (ID=17) (Nov 5, 2001 9:56:04 PM)
Kris, thank you very much.

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:56:12 PM)
T- as long as you can show why you would be good in a new field, they will look at you...

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:56:18 PM)
I - Fin engr is a program through Engr, but you can do 10 of your 60 credits there to add on to your finance focus

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 9:56:24 PM)
T - as long as you can prove you have the skills a company needs, they'll be happy to hire you

indranil (ID=39) (Nov 5, 2001 9:56:51 PM)
thanks kris.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:57:10 PM)
7 - have focus in terms of your goals. Tie in where you have been , where you want to go, and how the MBA form UMBS will get you there

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 9:57:18 PM)
Test, a high percentage of MBAs are career changers. I believe at one school they estimated 50%.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:58:15 PM)
Test - I agree - especially at Michigan we have students with a wide range of interests

SM (ID=38) (Nov 5, 2001 9:58:50 PM)
But is it advisable to mention in an essay that your reason for MBA is to help facilitate a career change?

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:58:52 PM)
In both your interview and school app- you should have a story of how where you've been fits in the MBA/job and where it will take you...Being able to have a vision and act on it is key in both scenarios.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 9:58:57 PM)
SM - certainly!

Paul Bodine (ID=34) (Nov 5, 2001 9:59:04 PM)
Is an applicant at any disadvantage if he/she maps out *two* dissimilar post-MBA career tracks in the essays that he/she may take? That is, he/she isn't sure which of the two it will be yet so describes *both* paths for you?

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 9:59:21 PM)
Clarification- interview for internships and jobs as well as for school.

SM (ID=38) (Nov 5, 2001 9:59:45 PM)
Thanks Kris.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:00:00 PM)
P - that can be tricky - I joke that I don't follow around students with their goals essay saying you said finance and now you are doing marketing!

Paul Bodine (ID=34) (Nov 5, 2001 10:00:21 PM)
Thanks.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:00:33 PM)
P - they can change their mind once they are here, but I want to know they have a good sense for where they are headed. You can get overwhelmed otherwise. Too many choices

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:00:36 PM)
SM, think of the MBA as a bridge taking you from where you have been to where you want to go. They need to connect, but you can change direction.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:01:09 PM)
? Did anyone apply round 1?

ana (ID=43) (Nov 5, 2001 10:01:13 PM)
I've heard that many first year students at the top schools are starting to look at their internships as possibly their only job offer for next year because of the economy and that this is discouraging them from trying new things for internships. Do you feel that this is so at Michigan?

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 10:01:14 PM)
I did

ana (ID=43) (Nov 5, 2001 10:01:26 PM)
Yes, I applied to Round 1

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 10:01:33 PM)
Got my postcard confirmation today. :)

SM (ID=38) (Nov 5, 2001 10:01:38 PM)
Thanks Linda - that certainly paints a picture.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:01:48 PM)
You're welcome.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:01:48 PM)
Marisa - great! We hope to get back to you in mid to late Jan

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:02:04 PM)
Ana - same for you!

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 10:02:09 PM)
Kris, Christina and John: Thank you very much for taking time out of your busy schedules to participate in this chat. It was extremely helpful. Good luck C & J with your recruiting efforts.

ana (ID=43) (Nov 5, 2001 10:02:10 PM)
Thank you!

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 10:02:46 PM)
Ana - Not necessarily. I'd view an internship as a possible full-time job not because of the economy but because I want to do something and hope I really enjoy it.

MicaSchneider (ID=40) (Nov 5, 2001 10:02:57 PM)
Kris, what are a couple of things that MBAs won't find at Michigan?

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:02:59 PM)
Our hour is almost up, but if you have more questions Kris has agreed on behalf of herself, John and Cristina to continue for another fifteen minutes.

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 10:03:02 PM)
A- In full time offers, regardless of the economy, companies are going to want to know what you did in your internship and how it will help you in the job you are interviewing for.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:03:15 PM)
Just want to mention that we have a weekend for admitted students April 5-7 Go Blue Rendezvous. Mark it down.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:03:21 PM)
M, California sunshine.

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 10:03:27 PM)
Mica - Palm trees. :)

ana (ID=43) (Nov 5, 2001 10:03:30 PM)
Hopefully that is something I will be able to attend ;)

test (ID=41) (Nov 5, 2001 10:03:33 PM)
Thanks a lot for all the comments and an hour sure is too short

ana (ID=43) (Nov 5, 2001 10:03:46 PM)
Thank you for all of the information Linda, Christina and John!

Paul Bodine (ID=34) (Nov 5, 2001 10:03:46 PM)
M, Spartans

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:03:46 PM)
Test, we'll go for fifteen more minutes.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:03:48 PM)
Mica - attitude - we ask folks to check their egos at the door

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 10:04:04 PM)
Ana - you're welcome.

MicaSchneider (ID=40) (Nov 5, 2001 10:04:09 PM)
good answer.

indranil (ID=39) (Nov 5, 2001 10:04:22 PM)
Thanks a lot Kris, John and Linda. It helped.

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 10:04:33 PM)
M- a dog eat dog feeling...people are ambitious but not at the expense of others.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:04:53 PM)
Mica - I'd also say you won't find restrictions - you can really find to flexibility to pursue any path and fortunately we are recognized as being strong across the board

ana (ID=43) (Nov 5, 2001 10:04:55 PM)
Thanking you for holding this session Kris!

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:05:08 PM)
You are welcome - this was my first and it was a lot of fun

Marisa (ID=29) (Nov 5, 2001 10:05:25 PM)
You all did a great job. Thanks again. Good luck to all! Bye.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:05:32 PM)
John, I know you are interested in finance. Are you also interested in IB or VC? How does Michigan do in those areas?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:05:57 PM)
For any of you who are planning to apply via the Consortium, I can answer any questions about that as well

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 10:06:18 PM)
L - Michigan does very well in those areas. Students from the several previous classes have put a lot of effort into getting top IB firms to come here and recruit.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:06:30 PM)
The Consortium is focused on underrepresented minority students

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 10:06:40 PM)
Or me....I am the Michigan Student Liaison for the Consortium

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 10:06:58 PM)
Plus, the finance club has a Wall Street Forum every November for first-years to go visit New York and get to know the industry

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 10:07:03 PM)
?How about area of entrepreneur in UMBS?

SM (ID=38) (Nov 5, 2001 10:07:12 PM)
I am reading an intriguing book called 'Snapshots from hell — Making of an MBA'. Has anyone read that one? If so — How true is the description of the first year student life in the book?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:07:16 PM)
And we have an excellent trading floor which we are expanding this year

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:07:39 PM)
7 - check out our Zell Lurie Institute for Entrepreneurial studies

Paul Bodine (ID=34) (Nov 5, 2001 10:07:44 PM)
That hell was Stanford, no?

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 10:07:49 PM)
1st year can be tough... but it will be at any good school... it's a different way of life from the 9-5 of a job.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:07:52 PM)
How about the top strategy consulting firms? Are they also recruiting heavily at Michigan?

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 10:08:01 PM)
SM - yes, I read it. Good book, although it is a little embellished for print

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:08:04 PM)
We will be in Boston and DC next week folks, and in Detroit for a reception on Nov 29th

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 10:08:12 PM)
I will apply for entrepreneur

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:08:26 PM)
L - McKinsey was one of our top recruiting companies

MicaSchneider (ID=40) (Nov 5, 2001 10:08:28 PM)
Kris, how much access do Michigan MBAs get to the new dean (a recruit from HBS)?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:08:53 PM)
Mica - just last week he did a lunch with a group of students that Christina arranged

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:09:10 PM)
M- and he will be having monthly lunches. Open door policy just as Joe had

ceb (ID=48) (Nov 5, 2001 10:09:18 PM)
how difficult is 1st year for someone with a nontraditional business background?

SM (ID=38) (Nov 5, 2001 10:09:19 PM)
Paul - Yes it was Stanford but I assume it would be like that at most schools.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:09:38 PM)
M- has done the town hall meetings too

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:09:56 PM)
I was recently at an MBA event where one of the participants strongly encouraged students to take or retake stat before starting their first year. She said it was a real bear.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:10:04 PM)
CEB - we will want to be sure you can handle the rigor of the program.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:10:25 PM)
Stats is a great and practical class. Something to get the gears turning.

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 10:10:43 PM)
? Would pls introduce something about area of entrepreneur.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:10:54 PM)
We also have a quantitative skills workshop in August, and calc is a requirement for enrollment

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 10:10:55 PM)
Stats is not the easiest class in the world but one that I learned the most from

SM (ID=38) (Nov 5, 2001 10:11:31 PM)
What other classes should one take before heading to the school if one is from a non traditional background.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:11:31 PM)
7 - we have a great institute - they help with internships, we have a lot of classes and now have an EMAP. Check out the web for more details

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 10:11:41 PM)
710- There are several elective classes you can take in the area of entrepreneurship

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 10:11:48 PM)
7 - there are plenty of entrepreneurial opportunities, from an EMAP to the VC classes to the business plan competitions

skins4444 (ID=45) (Nov 5, 2001 10:12:05 PM)
Kris have the # of applications for the first round met or exceeded your expectations

710China3.4 (ID=15) (Nov 5, 2001 10:12:11 PM)
Thanks a lot.

indranil (ID=39) (Nov 5, 2001 10:12:13 PM)
Do applicants with a background in stats/finance/math/eco stand a better chance of getting admitted.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:12:26 PM)
Skins - I don't know our final numbers yet, but we are up - so I guess that is about what I expected.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:12:35 PM)
Hard to know where it will end up

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:12:53 PM)
Indranil - depends on the rest of the app - goals, track record of success, etc

skins4444 (ID=45) (Nov 5, 2001 10:13:10 PM)
will you increase the class size at all

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:13:28 PM)
Skins - no we do not plan to

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:13:31 PM)
I believe that UMBS requires calculus, but if it's been a while since you took it and you have not used it, I would retake it.

SM (ID=38) (Nov 5, 2001 10:13:47 PM)
Thanks Linda

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:13:48 PM)
We do require calculus

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:14:10 PM)
Any other questions?

Paul Bodine (ID=34) (Nov 5, 2001 10:14:17 PM)
Do you expect the post-Sept. 11 foreign visa policies to affect the number of foreign applicants accepted?

ceb (ID=48) (Nov 5, 2001 10:14:28 PM)
are there many students with science backgrounds

ceb (ID=48) (Nov 5, 2001 10:14:33 PM)
-+

MicaSchneider (ID=40) (Nov 5, 2001 10:14:37 PM)
Kris, you must have seen some wild attempts by MBA applicants to catch your attention over the years. Any quirky stories stand out? And is it advised to do such things to catch you eye?

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:14:44 PM)
P - It won't affect admissions from our end, but I do wonder how it will affect enrollment ultimately

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 10:14:53 PM)
C - about 30% or so have engineering degrees, I think

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:15:34 PM)
M - we don't advocate this, but students have sent us food, candy etc. — please don't do that! One student, after being admitted sent us Ben and Jerry's (he worked there) that was nice!

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:15:47 PM)
C - yes about 30% are engineers

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:15:54 PM)
Tastes great, but bad for one's diet!

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:16:11 PM)
and waistline!

indranil (ID=39) (Nov 5, 2001 10:16:21 PM)
what is the percentage of married students.

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:16:32 PM)
CEB - our profile is on our website at www.bus.umich/edu/apply with all the details of undergrad degrees

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:16:32 PM)
Last questions...

skins4444 (ID=45) (Nov 5, 2001 10:16:40 PM)
how early could an applicant receive an acceptance call or letter from Michigan

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:16:48 PM)
about 50% come with a spouse or sig other

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:17:09 PM)
skins - we admit in batches, so we will reach out to admits via phone in January

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:17:30 PM)
Skins - we can't call everyone in one day, obviously, so it usually takes 3-5 days to get to everyone

skins4444 (ID=45) (Nov 5, 2001 10:17:35 PM)
thanks Kris

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:17:56 PM)
Thank you again all for participating this evening. Special thanks to Kris, John, and Cristina for joining us this evening and to Paul Bodine and Sonia Michaels for their assistance.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:18:03 PM)
We look forward to seeing you at future chats. Here is a list of currently scheduled chats:

Kris Nebel (ID=35) (Nov 5, 2001 10:18:10 PM)
Good night everyone and Go Blue!

Paul Bodine (ID=34) (Nov 5, 2001 10:18:11 PM)
Thank you, Michigan!

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:18:11 PM)
November 12 UNC
November 19 MIT
November 26 UCLA
December 5 NYU

Cristina - UMBS '02 (ID=28) (Nov 5, 2001 10:18:25 PM)
Good Luck Everyone in the App. process

John-class of 2002 (ID=26) (Nov 5, 2001 10:18:46 PM)
Good luck everyone. Hope to see you at Homecoming in the fall!

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:18:52 PM)
Please check our chat schedule for exact times and details.

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:19:01 PM)
Have a very good evening! Good luck with your applications!

Linda Abraham (ID=31) (Nov 5, 2001 10:19:53 PM)
Good luck with your applications!