MBA: University of Chicago Admissions Chat (Feb. 04, 2002) )

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Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:09:04 PM)
First I want to welcome you all to Accepted.com's University of Chicago Admissions Chat.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:09:11 PM)
I also want to welcome Don Martin, GSB's Associate Dean of Enrollment Management, and Stacie Frank and Bob Frenzel, second-year students at Chicago. And last but not least, I want to welcome Cindy Tokumitsu and Paul Bodine, two of Accepted.com's editors.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:09:18 PM)
Bob Frenzel is a former Naval officer who spent two years with Arthur Andersen Business Consulting as a strategy consultant after leaving the Navy and before coming to Chicago. He is a member of Chicago's Energy group, the Investment Banking Group, the Wine Club, Giving Something Back, and the Student Admissions Group at Chicago. He spent last summer with Goldman Sachs' Investment Banking Group in NYC. He has accepted a permanent position with Goldman Sach's Mergers & Strategic Advisory group in NYC

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:09:27 PM)
With a bachelor's degree in Business Administration/Finance and experience in insurance brokerage, pursuing an M.B.A. was a natural next step for Stacie Frank. She chose Chicago GSB because of its strong finance program, highly regarded reputation, and her "extremely positive experience at Admit Weekend." In addition to serving on the Dean's Student Admissions Committee, she is a member of the Investment Banking Group, Chicago Women in Business and the Graduate Business Council Mentor Program. She will graduate from the GSB this spring with concentrations in Finance, Accounting and Economics. A graduate of Villanova University, Stacie hails from the suburbs of Philadelphia.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:10:00 PM)
In the past, we have enjoyed the spontaneity of unmoderated chats at Accepted.com. However, the increasing popularity of these chats meant that spontaneity occasionally turned into chaos. So tonight, we are going to use a moderated chat formal.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:10:14 PM)
In a moderated chat, all your questions go to the moderator (me). I will choose the questions that have the broadest application and those questions will appear in the main window for Don, Stacie, and Bob to reply to. You will only see your question in the main window if and when it is chosen. You will not see your question on the screen if it is not picked.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:10:28 PM)
Please post your questions, and I will choose as many as possible from the ones you post and our guests will respond. You can also post follow up questions.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:10:40 PM)
Final request: We would like to avoid the brief summary of qualifications (or even the long laundry list) followed by the question, "Can I qualify?" Or "What are my chances?" This isn't the forum for that kind of question.

AVohra (ID=23) (Feb 4, 2002 9:10:51 PM)
What is the increase in the number of applications for the 1st round?

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:10:56 PM)
Other than that limitation, this is your chance to ask questions about Chicago's program and admissions.

RB (ID=43) (Feb 4, 2002 9:11:13 PM)
How many applicants have you left to call for round 1?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:11:25 PM)
AV, I'm not giving exact numbers tonight, but I can tell you that we have had a very large increase in applications so far.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:12:20 PM)
RB, I can't tell you the exact number, but between 100 and 150 so far.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:12:28 PM)
Bob and Stacie. If you were to choose 3 attributes you would like to see in Chicago students, what would they be?

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:12:59 PM)
I prefer if my classmates and future alumni all have intelligence, humility, and a positive attitude.

drumms (ID=38) (Feb 4, 2002 9:13:00 PM)
What kind of "additional" information does GSB expect from "waitlisted" applicants?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:13:00 PM)
Smart, enthusiastic about learning, and fun

GSBCANDIDATE4000 (ID=64) (Feb 4, 2002 9:13:16 PM)
How important is the interview in evaluating a candidate's MBA application?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:13:27 PM)
drumms, if you request it we'll give you personal feedback on why you were waitlisted. Then you can respond accordingly.

Tian (ID=51) (Feb 4, 2002 9:13:45 PM)
Don, do you have quota for an individual country? what is the increase of application from mainland China?

Monique (ID=61) (Feb 4, 2002 9:13:54 PM)
Don, Thank you for taking the time to speak to us. I have a question about your international admissions requirements. I understand that schools have their reasons for specifying the kind of undergraduate degree they require for admissions (GSB is the only school that requires the extra honors year from my country), but I am curious about 'special circumstances' that may surround some of us. I ask, because I do not have the extra 'honors' year required from my country, and at the age of 28, I am now living in the US and am unlikely to go back and get it. Do other academic programs (CFA , grad. dip.) qualify as a 'special circumstance' and if so, how should we highlight them? As a side observation, it would be helpful if you put each country's undergraduate requirements on your website.

drumms (ID=38) (Feb 4, 2002 9:13:59 PM)
do I need to email/ phone the GSB admissions committee for a feedback?

linda (ID=58) (Feb 4, 2002 9:14:02 PM)
I missed the deadline for requiring an interview, so I didn't interview. Will it be possible for me to be admitted without an interview? thanks!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:14:04 PM)
4000, it's quite important, as it gives us an opportunity to get to know you in person.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:14:31 PM)
GSB4000 - From an applicant readers' perspective, the interview is very important, especially in tougher decisions. I highly recommend that everyone interview that is interested in the GSB.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:14:59 PM)
Monique, that is a question best answered by our admissions staff. You can contact them at admissions@gsb.uchicago.edu

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:15:14 PM)
linda, we like to interview as many applicants as we can. You can still schedule an interview by calling or going online

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:15:43 PM)
drumms, that would be best, yes. Either option is fine.

Leon (ID=63) (Feb 4, 2002 9:15:57 PM)
?Can you please explain the process by which applications are read (i.e. committee, individually, etc.)?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:16:01 PM)
Tian, no, we do not have any quotas of any kind in the admissions process.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:16:08 PM)
drumms - email or phone are acceptable for feedback from admissions

patrick (ID=56) (Feb 4, 2002 9:16:21 PM)
Don, I submitted my application in Round 2, would you see that as a disadvantage to submitting in Round 1?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:16:30 PM)
Leon, three individuals on the admissions committee read each application before a decision is made. Along with the interviewer, that is four individuals who evaluate each candidate.

linda (ID=58) (Feb 4, 2002 9:16:35 PM)
but the deadline for requiring an interview for round 2 is Dec 14, 2001, right?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:17:04 PM)
Even if the deadline has passed there may still be interview slots available, and it is still to your advantage to try to schedule, but Linda, we are still interviewing for second round apps

Leon (ID=63) (Feb 4, 2002 9:17:11 PM)
!Thank you!

CD2004 (ID=55) (Feb 4, 2002 9:17:21 PM)
Do you expect more candidates will be waitlisted this year due to the unexpected increase in applications?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:17:27 PM)
patrick, not at all. We will admit applicants from all three deadlines.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:17:44 PM)
you are welcome Leon!

linda (ID=58) (Feb 4, 2002 9:17:54 PM)
may I ask for an interview for round 2 now?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:18:12 PM)
Not necessarily CD. It all depends on the applicant pool.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:18:23 PM)
linda, go to the website to sign up or call admissions tomorrow

AVohra (ID=23) (Feb 4, 2002 9:18:28 PM)
Has the new dean modified/impacted how the GSB evaluates applicants?

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:18:31 PM)
How are 2002 graduates faring in job placement?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:18:44 PM)
I just got a job offer today!!!!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:18:46 PM)
linda, we do have interview slots open only for campus interviews at this time

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:18:51 PM)
Congratulations!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:18:51 PM)
AV, no he has not. Actually, the faculty determine our admissions policy.

cpadude (ID=66) (Feb 4, 2002 9:18:54 PM)
Where can I obtain placement statistics for the class of 2001? Class of 2000 are the most recent statistics on the GSB website.

drumms (ID=38) (Feb 4, 2002 9:18:57 PM)
don, would GSB consider a waitlisted applicant's application against the applicant pool in round 2 and 3

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:19:12 PM)
Linda - 2002 Grads are fairing pretty well despite the global economic slowdown. There is always a demand for good talented MBAs.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:19:29 PM)
cpa, you can log on to our GSB website for that information.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:19:43 PM)
linda, then we'll go ahead and evaluate your application without an interview for now. If we think we need one before making our final decision, we'll conduct one somehow.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:19:44 PM)
cpadude, actually, the career services website does have updated stats for the class of 2000-01 (last years graduates)

cpadude (ID=66) (Feb 4, 2002 9:20:20 PM)
Don, I have been to the website, but it was not updated for the class of 2001 statistics.

Monique (ID=61) (Feb 4, 2002 9:20:22 PM)
Do you have a target rate for the number of women admits this year.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:20:36 PM)
drumms, yes we would.\

linda (ID=58) (Feb 4, 2002 9:20:39 PM)
Don, thanks a lot!!!

patrick (ID=56) (Feb 4, 2002 9:20:45 PM)
Don, will GSB be taking an equal number of applicants from each round? what is the percentage breakdown, if you will.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:20:45 PM)
cpa, sorry about that! You can contact my colleague, Glenn Sykes, who is the Associate Dean for Career Services about this.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:21:06 PM)
cpa, bob is sending the link

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:21:32 PM)
patrick, we do not really have a percentage of applicants goal for each round. We try and look for the best candidates from all three deadlines.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:21:43 PM)
cpadude - here's the link to CS 2001 updated employment report: http://gsbwww.uchicago.edu/gsbcar/ss/UofC-Class_of_2000-2001_Final_Salary_Statistics_Full-Time.xls

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:22:09 PM)
How do you evaluate re-applicants? Are re-applicants at a disadvantage or advantage? When you review the new application, do you have the evaluation from the previous year's app?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:22:26 PM)
Linda, re-applicants are not at a disadvantage. Actually, we are impressed that they are interested enough to try again, and they are evaluated equally with regular applicants.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:22:54 PM)
Linda- re-applicants (like myself) are evaluated against the class they are applying for. Their applications are slightly modified, but reviewed the same

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:23:04 PM)
Monique, there is not a target rate for women, but we'd like to see the percentage increase for sure, and early indications are that it definitely will.

vcguy1 (ID=78) (Feb 4, 2002 9:23:08 PM)
Don, I applied in the first round. I'm still waiting to hear about the decision. How are decisions being released?

cpadude (ID=66) (Feb 4, 2002 9:23:17 PM)
Thanks Don and Stacie!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:23:33 PM)
you are welcome cpa!!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:23:49 PM)
vc, decisions for the first round are being made up until this Friday and will appear on our website along with written confirmation in the mail.

appl02 (ID=70) (Feb 4, 2002 9:24:28 PM)
Don, is an interview usually "blind" or do you read application documents before it?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:24:54 PM)
app, we do not read any application materials until after the interview has been conducted. This way, we are not biased in any way.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:25:01 PM)
I typically read the entire application first, then read the interview report

vcguy1 (ID=78) (Feb 4, 2002 9:25:06 PM)
Don, thanks. I also understand that admits are receiving personal calls. Is that for all admits or just a few?

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:25:10 PM)
appl02 - interviewers only see a resume prior to the interview

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:25:18 PM)
What do you think is the best and most distinctive aspect of the Chicago experience? What do you think it needs to improve or what is it working to improve?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:25:41 PM)
Bob and Stacie, I'll let you take a crack at these questions. How's that for passing the buck?

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:26:02 PM)
Your fingers deserve a rest. :-)

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:26:27 PM)
linda - I believe that the most distinctive characteristic is that our professors teach cutting edge research in their fields (marketing, accounting, finance, econ, strategy, entrepreneurship). We are breaking ground for our new building in May

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:26:28 PM)
most distinctive is definitely the ability to design a flexible curriculum/courses; area for improvement-facilities, but the GSB is already working toward that goal. We are breaking ground on a new building just for the GSB very soon!!!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:27:16 PM)
vc, I try to contact everyone who has been admitted via phone or e-mail. It's the best part of my job!!

gosha (ID=81) (Feb 4, 2002 9:27:22 PM)
Don, in the past Chicago was known to admit a third to a half of waitlisted applicants. is this trend likely to be repeated this year?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:27:44 PM)
gosha, it's hard to tell because we determine the number of admits from the waiting list from the number of admits who send in their deposits.

GSBCANDIDATE4000 (ID=64) (Feb 4, 2002 9:27:53 PM)
There is talk about some dissatisfaction among Chicago GSB students in the BusinessWeek rankings. How is GSB addressing this?

gosha (ID=81) (Feb 4, 2002 9:28:22 PM)
I understand, thanks!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:28:46 PM)
gosha, you're welcome!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:28:52 PM)
now 4,000 about the Business Week rankings, shortly after the rankings were released the GSB administration appointed a committee of students and staff to address areas to be considered for improvement. I am happy to report that based on the recommendations of this committee we have implemented many of their recommendations, and our students have been very pleased.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:29:27 PM)
GSB4000 - the B-school rankings are 2 years old. I think you will see a distinct change in attitude this year. The administration has been VERY receptive to student advice and recommendations.

drumms (ID=38) (Feb 4, 2002 9:29:35 PM)
How important is a recommendation from an alumnus for a waitlisted applicant?

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:29:41 PM)
Stacie and Bob, how are first year students doing with their internship search?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:29:59 PM)
4000-the people I know from the GSB were shocked to hear about the rankings last year. We have experienced nothing but a true sense of community at the GSB!!!!

GSBCANDIDATE4000 (ID=64) (Feb 4, 2002 9:30:29 PM)
thanks Don, that sounds very assuring and proactive on GSB's part.

Chicago_hopeful (ID=83) (Feb 4, 2002 9:30:32 PM)
Whoops, new to the chat format, think I inadvertently ethericized my first comment. I am a Round II app who missed my interview appt. due to illness (and consequent inability to travel). Is it possible U of Chicago will call on me to interview at a later time (there @ the University)? Should I be deemed a worthy candidate?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:30:46 PM)
you are welcome - I thought so

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:31:08 PM)
On-campus interviewing started last week for first years, so the process is still in the early stages for 1st years, but almost all of the companies that interviewed last year are coming back, and we have added some new ones too.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:31:10 PM)
hopeful, sorry you got sick. We'll go ahead and evaluate your application for now and if we think we need an interview to help us with our final decision, we will let you know.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:31:30 PM)
Hopeful - you are welcome to contact admissions to try and schedule. We are still interviewing candidates for the 2nd deadline.

Chicago_hopeful (ID=83) (Feb 4, 2002 9:31:45 PM)
Thanks, Mr. Martin

wjo_nw3 (ID=72) (Feb 4, 2002 9:31:56 PM)
Don, has the IMBA applicant pool seen as dramatic an increase as the traditional MBA pool? How does IMBA admissions process differ from the traditional MBA?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:31:58 PM)
drumms, all recommendations are helpful, as long as the recommenders know you well enough to complete our recommendation form.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:32:36 PM)
wjo, yes, IMBA applications are up right now.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:32:40 PM)
Do you expect busy recommenders to fill out your specific form? Do you look negatively on letters sent by the recommender to all the schools an applicant is applying to and merely attached to your form?

AVohra (ID=23) (Feb 4, 2002 9:32:51 PM)
Are there applicants for whom you request a second interview?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:33:02 PM)
Linda, since our forms ask for specific information we do want them completed, but an additional letter is also helpful and welcome.

GSBCANDIDATE4000 (ID=64) (Feb 4, 2002 9:33:12 PM)
Don/Stacie/Frank - Can you address the concerns of security around the Hyde Park area?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:33:16 PM)
Linda, as long as the recommendation includes all of the info we are looking for - and doesn't have the wrong school's name! - IT SHOULD BE OK

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:33:27 PM)
AV, not usually.

cpadude (ID=66) (Feb 4, 2002 9:33:36 PM)
Bob, I read a quote somewhere that one of your professors remarked that he "wished the new dean would just leave him alone so he could do his research". Being that the GSB is a highly prestigious research university, do you get the impression that professors actually like teaching and go out of their way to accommodate students during office hours, etc.?

Tarasevich (ID=44) (Feb 4, 2002 9:33:37 PM)
Don, can you please tell me how close of a relationship GSB has with the automotive industry?

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:33:51 PM)
Linda - yes, we expect recommenders to fill out our "specific form". However, we encourage additional information in the form of letters to substantiate the ratings an applicant receives. School names are not required.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:34:12 PM)
Stacie or Bob, how about security in Hyde Park?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:34:19 PM)
Hyde Park is actually one of the safest communities in all of Chicago. A little known fact about the U of C: we have a full police force and as long as you take normal "big city" precautions, it's really not bad!

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:34:59 PM)
GSB4000 - I have never felt unsafe in Hyde Park .

CD2004 (ID=55) (Feb 4, 2002 9:35:27 PM)
If waitlisted, can a candidate request a second interview or sit down in person with an adcom member if he/she is willing to come back out to the campus?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:35:33 PM)
Tara, we do quite well in placing our graduates in the automotive industry. While I don't have exact numbers, our students work with and for all the major auto makers, and in varying positions.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:35:46 PM)
cpadude - our institution is world renowned for its faculty research, however I have NEVER had a professor not have time for me during office hours or outside of hours. That being said, our professors have significant draws on their time and are often out of the city/country in quarters they don't teach.

Tarasevich (ID=44) (Feb 4, 2002 9:36:15 PM)
Thanks, Don!

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 9:36:18 PM)
Bob/Stacie, do you find that the flexible curriculum reduces some of the contact opportunities with students who are different from you since you all have (somewhat) similar interests (i.e.: you bid on the class so you are defacto interested)?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:36:37 PM)
Tara, ford and gm, daimler chrysler all come to campus (among others)

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:36:41 PM)
you are welcome!

hope (ID=85) (Feb 4, 2002 9:36:42 PM)
I have been working for nine years and I am concerned with the length of my W/E. Would nine years of work experience be too long? Will it adversely affect my application?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:37:11 PM)
CD, we don't usually conduct second interview with applicants. The best thing to do is to call us and request wait list feedback.

patrick (ID=56) (Feb 4, 2002 9:37:13 PM)
Stacie, which other auto manufacturers come to campus? That's the industry of my choice.

mariah (ID=80) (Feb 4, 2002 9:37:19 PM)
Where do most of the first year's live?

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:37:28 PM)
RB - absolutely. I had a conversation today about the merits of the full-cohort system or the flex-curriculum system. I am a huge proponent of the flexible curriculum. It offers exposure to the areas of schooling that YOU want - not what someone thinks you should have. It does allow you to meet a broader range of people earlier in your school career.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:37:33 PM)
RB, surprisingly no. I have never had a class where I didn't meet someone new. People take classes in all areas, regardless of career path.

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 9:38:13 PM)
Don, what is your stance on "late bloomers"? Do you have a serious disadvantage if you started your career later in life?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:38:22 PM)
mariah, many first years live in Hyde park because it is very convenient to campus, meeting people, and doing group work.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:38:51 PM)
My fingers have had a nice rest now. Any questions from anyone?

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 9:39:04 PM)
Thanks Bob and Stacie. The flexible curriculum is one of the biggest draws to Chicago for me but I am concerned about the loss of "exposure" to other students.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:39:06 PM)
Do you resent it or appreciate it when applicants who are wait-listed, write and say "I have heard from School X and have to respond to them by Date Y. Is there any possibility you could give me an answer before Date Y. I would prefer to attend Chicago."

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:39:26 PM)
patrick, not quite sure, but suffice to say that most of the major ones do recruit here!

GSBCANDIDATE4000 (ID=64) (Feb 4, 2002 9:39:30 PM)
Do you provide deferred admissions?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:39:35 PM)
Linda, we don't mind knowing if someone is up against a deadline from another school and will try, where possible, to accommodate their request.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:39:38 PM)
mariah - 75% live in HP during their 1st year. During 2nd year, that number flips to ~25% as more people move to the city center.

appl02 (ID=70) (Feb 4, 2002 9:39:42 PM)
What is a usual format of the interview?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:40:01 PM)
4000, in rare cases, yes.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:40:02 PM)
rb-no problem, flexibility is definitely an advantage.

EOP (ID=74) (Feb 4, 2002 9:40:04 PM)
Mr. Martin, does military experience factor in favorably to an applicant's file?

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:40:14 PM)
RB - I think flex curriculum INCREASES your exposure to other students. It definitely doesn't limit it.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:40:27 PM)
aapl02-about 35 minutes of getting to know you type questions talking about your goals, why you want an MBA, what you know about the GSB with some time at the end (10 minutes or so) for you to ask us questions.

cpadude (ID=66) (Feb 4, 2002 9:40:46 PM)
Thanks Bob!

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:41:03 PM)
I believe that Bob is a military man.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:41:20 PM)
EOP - as a 5.5+ year Navy officer, it is safe to say that military experience is valuable in the admissions process. Even better, it is VERY beneficial while you are at school. Army is one of my 4 favorite armed forces.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:41:22 PM)
EOP, it is definitely a plus, not a hindrance.

CD2004 (ID=55) (Feb 4, 2002 9:41:23 PM)
Percentage wise, what is the biggest reason someone is waitlisted? Is it because they haven't made the case of Why Chicago?

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 9:41:25 PM)
Don, what do you consider the most important attribute of an applicant, besides of course a burning desire to be at the GSB!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:41:43 PM)
RB, not at all. We have students of varying backgrounds and ages at the GSB. This enriches our community, and we like that.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:42:01 PM)
RB-depends why. If there is a plausible story that you explain effectively in your app, it won't necessarily hurt.

regis33 (ID=91) (Feb 4, 2002 9:42:20 PM)
Don, have you finished sending out acceptances for R1?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:42:42 PM)
regis, not we haven't. Decisions will be going out until this Friday.

EOP (ID=74) (Feb 4, 2002 9:42:46 PM)
Thanks, Don & Bob...Former Army myself, please don't let a Navy guy hold that against me.

regis33 (ID=91) (Feb 4, 2002 9:43:21 PM)
Thanks Don. I guess I'll have to keep my fingers crossed for a few more days.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:43:40 PM)
RB, that's a tough one, but let me try. I think the most important attribute is honesty. That probably sounds very canned, but someone who is himself/herself allows us the best change to evaluate them and see if there is a fit between them and the GSB.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:43:53 PM)
RB - the most important aspect is your propensity to be a future leader (business, civic, etc.) as evidenced by your past successes (professional, academic, etc.), couched by the fact that you have to be a good person (honest, humble, upbeat, etc.)

mickey21 (ID=90) (Feb 4, 2002 9:44:30 PM)
Don, how much weight does the interview have in the whole application package?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:44:44 PM)
mickey, the interview is very important, because it allows us to get to know someone in addition to what is in the application.

hope (ID=85) (Feb 4, 2002 9:44:47 PM)

Don, do you think a W/E of nine years will affect my application adversely?  I am now 32 and have been working for about 9 years.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:44:55 PM)
From my perspective, the best essays I read are the ones where I feel I am meeting someone.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:45:14 PM)
good point Linda!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:45:34 PM)
hope, not at all! The age range of our students is 24-40, so you are not at a disadvantage at all.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:46:03 PM)
hope - I was 30 when I was admitted. It doesn't hurt. It can help significantly if that time has helped you form clear goals.

mariah (ID=80) (Feb 4, 2002 9:46:08 PM)
Thanks for all the info. It has been a great help

applicant (ID=92) (Feb 4, 2002 9:46:22 PM)
Don, what is the mean and range of GMAT scores for the first round admits?

patrick (ID=56) (Feb 4, 2002 9:46:33 PM)
hope, I'm also 32, this is my second year applying to the GSB; good luck!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:46:39 PM)
glad you joined us Mariah!!

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 9:46:41 PM)
Bob and Stacie, what is "life outside the classroom" like?

GSBCANDIDATE4000 (ID=64) (Feb 4, 2002 9:46:52 PM)

What do you look for in the GMAT score? Percentiles, raw, total?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:47:01 PM)
applicant, our average GMAT for this year's class was 695 and the range was 550 to 800.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:47:29 PM)
RB - life outside the classroom is hectic. Too many things to distract you while in Chicago. Social life is great. No complaints at all!!! Work hard, play hard, sleep when you are old.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:47:36 PM)
rb-lots of work, but also lots of fun. Definitely takes great time management skills and the ability to balance.

Tian (ID=51) (Feb 4, 2002 9:47:51 PM)
thank you, don, bob and Stacie, hopefully I can get your call in march, don, ^_^

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 9:47:57 PM)
No problems with time management vis significant other?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:48:00 PM)
social life is much better than I expected!!!!!

Tarasevich (ID=44) (Feb 4, 2002 9:48:04 PM)
Don, I realize that you folks read a lot of essays during application period. Nevertheless, why are essay word limits so small? How does the ad com. view essays which are a bit longer than specified? Do you truncate those essays? TK

mickey21 (ID=90) (Feb 4, 2002 9:48:13 PM)
Bob & Stacie, how much luck have GSB students had with internships of their choice this year?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:48:26 PM)
4000, actually, we look at everything, but we also look at the entire application.

hope (ID=85) (Feb 4, 2002 9:48:31 PM)
thank you, Patrick! Good luck to you, too!

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:48:33 PM)
RB - time management is one of the best skills you will learn at school. Balancing social, academic, and other will be a challenge your whole life. You might as well get good at it now.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:49:05 PM)
RB-just takes some time to get used to the hectic schedule, but it can be done!

applicant (ID=92) (Feb 4, 2002 9:49:08 PM)
Don, thanks. How can a one improve his chances if his GMAT score is 30-40 points below the mean especially if that applicant is not a good test taker but has proven his academic abilities with a 3.5+ GPA.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:49:24 PM)
Tara, our word limit is the way it is to allow us optimal time to read what you submit. If you go a little over the word limit, that is fine.

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 9:49:48 PM)
Thanks for your insight Bob and Stacie!

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:50:03 PM)
mickey21 - internship recruiting just started last week. It is definitely too early to tell how the totals will fare. We have had great support from corporate America - there seems to be a flight to quality. I anticipate that 100% of our class will have summer internships when all is said and done.

Chris (ID=65) (Feb 4, 2002 9:50:06 PM)
Bob, How active is the Armed Forces Alumni Association at Chicago?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:50:18 PM)
tarasevich, also it forces you to really get to the heart of the matter quickly. An important skill to learn for future business success.

bamboo88 (ID=93) (Feb 4, 2002 9:50:26 PM)
What is the difference between your evening program and full time MBA? Are they at the same quality?

Chicago_hopeful (ID=83) (Feb 4, 2002 9:51:00 PM)
There must be (at least) one thing that you all think absolutely differentiates or sets Chicago apart. Even merely being excellent in all areas is a differentiator, though at first glance it may not seem to be so. What, in each of your opinions (if you will indulge me), sets Chicago apart? What do you think makes it the best school (for those who are granted admissions)?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:51:09 PM)
applicant, tell us that in the application, but it would be good to have taken the test at least twice in that case.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:51:20 PM)
chris - the AFA is not as active as I would like, but we have made good strides to that end. Although not formal, we are all very good friends without the structure imposed by the group. We all have much in common and that draws us together without needing a formal meeting to do so.

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 9:51:21 PM)
Don, other side of that coin - how can an applicant make up for a poor undergrad GPA?

mickey21 (ID=90) (Feb 4, 2002 9:51:24 PM)
thanks Bob. Best of luck!

GSBCANDIDATE4000 (ID=64) (Feb 4, 2002 9:51:31 PM)
How active are the Entrepreneurship efforts at GSB? Anything in particular that you are especially proud of?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:51:45 PM)
bamboo, the requirements for the full-time and part-time programs are virtually the same - same courses and faculty.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:52:12 PM)
EVENING PROGRAM is top notch, but is typically for students that live in the Chicago area and want to continue working full time.

Chris (ID=65) (Feb 4, 2002 9:52:18 PM)
Thanks Bob

Fcolicchio (ID=34) (Feb 4, 2002 9:52:29 PM)
Don, how do you evaluate applicants with more than two GMAT tests?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:52:38 PM)
bamboo, they are separate application processes.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:52:55 PM)
hopeful - GSB is a great school. It is not the best school for everyone. What I believe makes it best may not be something that you find is most attractive. However, I think that the quality professors, flexible curriculum, challenging academics, great urban location, superbly qualified students are SOME of the reasons that people love the GSB. Don't forget the extremely successful track record of our alumni.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:53:01 PM)
Fc, we take the highest score you have!!

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:53:27 PM)
GSB Candidate-Entrepreneurship program is amazing. Great faculty with real world experience, business plan competition each year called the New Venture Challenge, great contacts in Chicago for VC, Private equity, etc.

patrick (ID=56) (Feb 4, 2002 9:54:06 PM)
Don, if the second GMAT score is lower than the first, what effect would that have on the AdCom? Is the applicant applauded for trying or are the scores are averaged out?

Fcolicchio (ID-34) (Feb 4, 2002 9:54:13 PM)
Thank you, Don. I just hope mine is enough! :)

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 9:54:30 PM)
Do you take the highest of the individual scores, the quantitative and verbal scores?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:54:36 PM)
patrick, we take the highest score whether it is the first, second or third attempt. We do appreciate that someone is trying their best to get the best score they can.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:54:37 PM)
patrick-we take the best total score

Tarasevich (ID=44) (Feb 4, 2002 9:54:41 PM)
Stacie, are you talking about the business plan competition during which you compete with NW. Who won it this year?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:55:38 PM)
Fc, your best is your best whatever the outcome of you application.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:55:42 PM)
tarasevich-New Venture Challenge is solely a GSB thing. We do have other competitions with our peer schools.

Try (ID=93) (Feb 4, 2002 9:55:58 PM)
Thanks! Does the evening program offer the same fields as the regular program? I know some school offer only general management at their evening program. I am more interested in the evening program if it offers the similar program.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:56:17 PM)
We appreciate that you have tried - we really do.

boomerang (ID=94) (Feb 4, 2002 9:56:31 PM)
Don, if there is one most common reason an applicant ends up on the waitlist what would it be?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:56:36 PM)
try, all of the same classes are offered, taught by the same faculty.

raj_tx (ID=79) (Feb 4, 2002 9:56:46 PM)
? will good masters grades make up for poor undergrad grades and do you consider part-time work experience ?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:57:08 PM)
raj, yes, that is very helpful as those grades reflect more recent academic work.

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 9:57:20 PM)
Do many students take advantage of the ability to attend different sections of the same class (e.g.: campus and gleacher)?

Monique (ID=61) (Feb 4, 2002 9:57:37 PM)
Don, how do you evaluate international GPA's?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:57:38 PM)
RB-YES YES YES!!!!

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:57:51 PM)
I love taking some classes at Gleacher!

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:57:59 PM)
RB - some professors are very amenable to what is convenient for the students, but sometimes that can be logistically too challenging, and therefore they have to restrict which sections students attend to the sections they are registered for.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:58:09 PM)
boomerang, the reason would probably be that we weren't sure about some aspect of professional experience, academic work, or didn't get a sense of what the applicant's life was like outside of work or academics.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:58:14 PM)
gives you the opportunity to meet more people, too.

Tarasevich (ID=44) (Feb 4, 2002 9:58:39 PM)
Stacie, sorry for being ignorant, but what is gleacher?

Fcolicchio (ID=34) (Feb 4, 2002 9:59:05 PM)
Don, does a post-graduation course help in the application process? How do you consider its grades in relation to the undergraduate grades?

boomerang (ID=94) (Feb 4, 2002 9:59:10 PM)
Thanks, Don! That helps!

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 9:59:18 PM)
Gleacher is our business school building in downtown Chicago. Not ignorant at all, sorry I wasn't more clear!

cpadude (ID=66) (Feb 4, 2002 9:59:21 PM)
Are you one of the schools that is actively encouraging applicants with less than 2 years of work experience?

chach (ID=75) (Feb 4, 2002 9:59:36 PM)
Do the vast majority of 2nd years move out of Hyde Park?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 9:59:36 PM)
Monique, we use the information provided by the institution or get information from our International Affairs office.

AVohra (ID=23) (Feb 4, 2002 9:59:39 PM)
How does the GSB look at the CFA?

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 9:59:44 PM)
fcolicchio - post graduate courses are evaluated with the rest of the application. Hopefully the grades are strong since they are indications of your most recent academic performance.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:00:00 PM)
AV, quite positively.

Fcolicchio (ID=34) (Feb 4, 2002 10:00:27 PM)
Thanks Don!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:00:35 PM)
You are welcome!!

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:01:03 PM)
chach - the 2nd year class is ~75% in downtown/Lincoln park areas and 25% in Hyde Park

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:01:08 PM)
cpa, I wouldn't say we are actively encouraging applications from these individuals, but we are not discouraging them either. It's a matter of quality of application, not so much how many years of professional experience one has. Does that sound evasive or what!?

CD2004 (ID=55) (Feb 4, 2002 10:01:18 PM)
Hi Don, any more insight on how round 1 shaped up? Was it very competitive due to the large increase in apps? Are more spots being allocated this year due to the deadline being Nov. 30th versus Nov. 1st last year?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:01:23 PM)
cpadude-we really want a diverse class-so we look for people with more and less work experience. QUALITY is the key, along with maturity

appl02 (ID=96) (Feb 4, 2002 10:01:26 PM)
Is having an international experience important while applying to GSB?

Fcolicchio (ID=34) (Feb 4, 2002 10:01:55 PM)
Thanks Bob! But if my undergraduate grades are better than the post ones, will it impact negatively on my chances to get in?

Try (ID=93) (Feb 4, 2002 10:01:58 PM)
Don, how about a candidate who worked for local government for 4 years?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:02:12 PM)
CD, I'll know more about that on Friday, when we finish making our decisions.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:02:37 PM)
appl02 - we look for a broad range of experiences, maturity, and professionalism. Your experience overseas can't hurt.

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 10:02:42 PM)
Bob/Stacie, would you say you were surprised by the analytic and numerate rigor of the course work at GSB? I mean, I sat in on a marketing class where all we did was cluster stats!!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:02:45 PM)
try, that is great. We have several former government employees in our class every year.

CD2004 (ID=55) (Feb 4, 2002 10:02:46 PM)
Thanks Don! Hope to hear from you soon :-)

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:03:05 PM)
good luck CD!!!

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:03:06 PM)
fcolicchio - no, not really. Excellent undergraduate grades are always weighed heavily.

samhz (ID=97) (Feb 4, 2002 10:03:35 PM)
Hi, Don. I just got connected. I wonder if it is true that the applications are up 200% this year?

Paul_Bodine (ID=62) (Feb 4, 2002 10:03:37 PM)
According to Financial Times, Chicago GSB ranks 1st among business schools in the difference between pre- and post-MBA salary of its graduates. Has this traditionally been the case and to what do you attribute this?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:03:53 PM)
RB-the courses pretty much all have a quantitative component, but I haven't found it impossible. It is challenging, but I was prepared for that coming in to the GSB. The key is to understand the theory so you can best put it into practice.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:04:10 PM)
Paul, we have traditionally done very well in this area and I believe our outstanding and balanced curriculum is the primary reason.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:04:22 PM)
RB - although our reputation is a analytic/quantitative school, I haven't been overwhelmed at all. I have no other basis for judgment, though, as I have never been to another school.

boomerang (ID=94) (Feb 4, 2002 10:04:34 PM)
Don, is being wait listed this year in any way help your chances next year if you re-apply all else being equal?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:04:50 PM)
samhz, I'm not giving actual percentages at this point, but we have had a substantial increase in applications this year.

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 10:05:19 PM)
How much practice do you get (cases and simulations) vs. problems and structured assignments?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:05:28 PM)
Paul, not sure historically what the FT data has shown, but I can't say I am complaining!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:05:30 PM)
boomerang, it all depends on the applicant pool each year, but I will say that being waitlisted in one year is not considered a negative in any way if one reapplies.

appl02 (ID=96) (Feb 4, 2002 10:05:36 PM)
Don, did the quality of the application pool also increase?

hope (ID=85) (Feb 4, 2002 10:05:41 PM)
Don, will the dramatic increase in domestic applicants this year affect the number of international students GSB will admit?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:05:59 PM)
RB-in my experience it has been about 50/50 case classes vs. lecture

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:06:06 PM)
RB - I would say that more than 70% of my classes are case / simulation based while 30% are straight lecture

boomerang (ID=94) (Feb 4, 2002 10:06:24 PM)
Thanks Don! You're a straight shooter!

AVohra (ID=23) (Feb 4, 2002 10:06:31 PM)
How do you determine the number of applicants to accept in each round?

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 10:06:33 PM)
Wow, I didn't realize it was that much case oriented. Thanks!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:06:39 PM)
102, the quality of this year's applicant pool is just as good as always. We are very fortunate to have such outstanding applicants.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:07:04 PM)
appl02 - that is hard to assess until the applicants enroll and begin classes. Certainly their "statistics" are in line with our historics

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:07:05 PM)
RB, even my corporate finance and tax strategy classes had case components to them!

samhz (ID=97) (Feb 4, 2002 10:08:00 PM)
Thank you Don! Do you think there would be any difference between an interview before submission of application and the one after the submission?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:08:19 PM)
AV, we really don't, but we do try and keep enough openings to admit strong applicants for each of our deadlines.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:08:40 PM)
samhz - None! we would prefer an interview prior to make the decision easier, but if it occurs after, then we are comfortable.

Chris (ID=65) (Feb 4, 2002 10:09:06 PM)
Don, when will you start reading round 2 applications?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:09:10 PM)
samhz-better sooner than later, but we want to talk to you in any case

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:09:27 PM)
chris - I started reading R2 today. Obviously Don gets them after they go through multiple reviews.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:09:27 PM)
Chris, I'll start on those applications the week of February 25.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:09:34 PM)
chris, me too. We read them first, then Don sees them.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:10:02 PM)
Not necessarily, hope. We will, as always, look to admit those we believe are most qualified and are the best fit with the GSB.

samhz (ID=97) (Feb 4, 2002 10:10:39 PM)
Usually who will I interview with if I visit your campus?

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:11:14 PM)
samhz - it depends when you visit, but it could be an alumni, staff, or (if you are lucky) a current student (like Stacie and me)

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 10:11:17 PM)
When you review the new application from a reapplicant, do you have the evaluation from the previous year's app?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:11:31 PM)
linda, yes, the old app is included in the file

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:11:32 PM)
Linda, yes we do.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:11:50 PM)
linda - we retain re-applicant packages for 2 years. The old app is retained in the file if the reapplication is within 2 years

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 10:11:51 PM)
Last few questions...

Monique (ID=99) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:00 PM)
Don, Stacie & Bob, Thank you for taking the time to speak with us tonight.

Tarasevich (ID=44) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:05 PM)
Don, have you observed a.) the same b.) greater c.) smaller volume of international applicants this year? Have the September 11 events affected international applications in any fashion?

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:11 PM)
Don, do you have the final say on all applications? Have you ever had to enforce a veto?

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:13 PM)
our pleasure

raj_tx (ID=79) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:13 PM)
? do you consider part time work experience

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:14 PM)
Monique - you are welcome

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:14 PM)
no problem Monique!!!

Chicago_hopeful (ID=83) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:19 PM)
Linda, too! Thank you for providing the forum

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:34 PM)
Tara, the volume of international applicants at this point appears to be about the same.

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:44 PM)
You're welcome!

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:12:46 PM)
RB - Don reviews all applications and has final say. No such thing as a Veto

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:13:16 PM)
RB, I rarely over-rule the recommendations of the admissions committee. Maybe two or three times in a year if that.

appl02 (ID=96) (Feb 4, 2002 10:13:19 PM)
Is somebody who applied more than 2 years ago considered to be a reapplicant?

Try (ID=93) (Feb 4, 2002 10:13:25 PM)
So, it is not too late to apply if I am a strong candidate?

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:13:33 PM)
raj, yes we do.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:14:39 PM)
102, no they are not.

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:14:41 PM)
try, it is most definitely not too late to apply ever!!! If you have a strong application, you have very good chance of being admitted from any of our deadlines.

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:14:46 PM)
appl02 - yes, but technically they have to submit an entire new application. Therefore, their old application is not present when when the new file is presented. If that is the case, I would mention it in your optional essay.

AVohra (ID=23) (Feb 4, 2002 10:14:58 PM)
Don, Stacie and Bob thanks for fielding all the questions. I am anxiously awaiting my round 1 decision.

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:15:19 PM)
good luck avohra

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:15:25 PM)
all the best AV!!

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 10:15:53 PM)
Thank you again all for participating this evening. Special thanks to Don, Stacie, and Bob for joining us this evening and to Cindy Tokumitsu and Paul Bodine for their assistance.

appl02 (ID=96) (Feb 4, 2002 10:15:54 PM)
Thanks a lot!

Fcolicchio (ID=34) (Feb 4, 2002 10:15:59 PM)
Don, Bob and Stacie: thanks for your help!! I hope to hear DM' voice over the phone before the following weekend!

Paul_Bodine (ID=62) (Feb 4, 2002 10:15:59 PM)
Thanks GSB! Go Maroons!

DonMartinGSB (ID=69) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:03 PM)
Thanks to you Linda!!!!!

cindy tokumitsu (ID=67) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:05 PM)
Thank you, Don, Bob, and Stacie. Best of luck to the GSB applicants!

BobFrenzelGSB (ID=59) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:07 PM)
Good Evening !

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:08 PM)
We look forward to seeing you at future chats. Here is a list of currently scheduled chats:

StacieFrankGSB (ID=60) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:10 PM)
Linda, great job!

RB (ID=82) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:10 PM)
Yes, thanks everyone!

linda (ID=58) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:12 PM)
Thanks, Don, Bob, Stacie. Bye

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:16 PM)
February 13:Carnegie Mellon; February 19:Cornell's Johnson School

Try (ID=93) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:22 PM)
Thanks! GSBs & Linda

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:23 PM)
Please check /chat/schedule.aspx#mba for exact times and details.

Tarasevich (ID=44) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:24 PM)
Don, Stacie, Bob, thank you again for your time and help! TK

Linda Abraham (ID=50) (Feb 4, 2002 10:16:29 PM)
Have a very good evening! Good luck with your applications!