2002 Carnegie Mellon Admissions Chat

MBA: Carnegie Mellon Admissions Chat (Feb. 13, 2002)

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Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:07:02 PM)
Let's start.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:07:12 PM)
First I want to welcome you all to Accepted.com's Carnegie Mellon Admissions Chat.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:07:12 PM)
hi Brett--welcome!

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:07:19 PM)
I also want to welcome Laurie Stewart, CMU's Director of Admissions and Financial Aid, and Pamela Barnhill, CMU alum (2001) and adcom member. And last but not least, I want to welcome Cindy Tokumitsu and Paul Bodine, two of Accepted.com's editors.

Brett (ID=22) (Feb 13, 2002 9:07:20 PM)

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:07:26 PM)
Thanks to everyone for joining.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:07:37 PM)
thanks for inviting us, Linda :-)

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:07:41 PM)
I encourage dialogue and discussion, but I would like to suggest a structure to make it easier to follow the threads of conversation. So here is the protocol: We will post material to the chat. If you have a question on that material, please type a "?" and then your question. The other participants or I will reply. If one of you wants to comment on the current topic, please jump right in. If you want to start a different topic, please type "?".

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:07:49 PM)
You're welcome Laurie

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:07:56 PM)
If the crowd this evening grows and a moderated chat would be more beneficial, we'll switch to that format to avoid the chaotic feel that some other chats have had. When we switch to a moderated chat, all your questions will come to me. I will choose the questions that have the broadest application and those questions will appear in the main window for our guests to reply to. If and when we switch to a moderated format, you will only see your question in the main window if and when it is chosen. You will not see it if it is not chosen.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:08:04 PM)
Final request: We would like to avoid the brief summary of qualifications (or even the long laundry list) followed by the question, "Can I qualify?" Or "What are my chances?" This isn't the forum for that kind of question.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:08:11 PM)
Other than that limitation, this is your chance to ask questions about CMU's program and admissions policies. But I would like to take advantage of my position as host and ask the first questions.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:08:26 PM)
How can applicants differentiate themselves from other candidates?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:08:51 PM)
One way is to show how Carnegie Mellon is the right MBA program for them through their essays and an interview if they have it. Besides all the other qualifications, we're looking for candidates that show they really know Carnegie Mellon's program and why it is a good choice for them.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:09:28 PM)
That kind of leads to my next question. Part of the "right program" means that their needs are best met by CMU's strengths. CMU is famous for high-tech. What are its other strengths?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:10:13 PM)
That's right, Linda. Technology is a strong area within our MBA program; technology really permeates all areas at the school. But there are other great strengths. The most popular area of study is finance, and the operations and entrepreneurship programs are excellent too.

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 9:11:13 PM)
Hello! Laurie- I have just been invited for an interview. Is this a sign that I am being highly considered for admission or do many applicants get invited? What % of applicants this year received interviews? What will admissions people be looking for in the interview?

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 9:11:23 PM)
Really, it's good to know that CMU is strong in Finance.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:11:34 PM)
One great strength of the program is the mini-semester format which allows students to take a broad range of courses in many areas. Most students graduate with multiple areas of concentration--based on their interests. Last year, a typical grad had 3 concentrations. Pam--what were your concentrations?

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:12:38 PM)
Laurie, why don't we start taking the guests' questions, starting with Vera's about interviews at CMU?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:12:46 PM)
My concentrations were Finance, Marketing, Operations and Strategy.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:12:51 PM)
sure Linda

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:13:03 PM)
Vera--being invited for an interview is a positive sign. We try to interview as many candidates as possible, but we aren't able to interview everyone. The interview is really straightforward. To prepare--you should be ready to talk about your background and goals, as well as your leadership and teamwork experiences. We also want to know why you are interested in Carnegie Mellon's MBA program.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:13:33 PM)
Pam, what do you think is the best and most distinctive aspect of the CMU experience? What do you think it needs to improve or what is it working to improve?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:14:07 PM)
For me, it was the ability to be part of a collegial environment...small classes, friendly and personal service. I believe the greatest improvement can come in the area of Marketing and making the CMU MBA more well-known around the globe.

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 9:14:28 PM)
Well, diversified concentrations sounds great. Is this the reason why the CMU cultivate generalists? or there's some other reason for that.

Markose (ID=20) (Feb 13, 2002 9:15:17 PM)
I like the term that CMU used to describe its students - sharp generalists

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:15:18 PM)
Xinyan, yes this interdisciplinary approach is what drives the idea of being a generalist.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:15:50 PM)
Markose--that is the goal of our program, to help our students become 'sharp generalists'.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:16:02 PM)
Pam do you feel the CMU degree prepared you for int'l business and the global village?

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 9:16:22 PM)
? I'm very disappointed because I'm waitlisted. But, I'm preparing for another recommendation from CMU grad. However, in worst case, I'm wondering if CMU offers deferred admissions for waitlisted people.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:16:51 PM)
That is tough. I came in with a certain amount of international experience after living in Asia and Europe pre-MBA....although, working with 40% international students certainly helps you appreciate the subtle nuances.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:16:53 PM)
BongSoak--we don't have a deferred admission program for waitlisted candidates. Students can definitely be offered admission from the waitlist, and others are successful when they reapply.

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 9:17:03 PM)
I am very interested in the international population of Carnegie Mellon students. What countries (besides the U.S.) are represented at GSIA? Also is there an opportunity to study another language (e.g. I would like to improve my Spanish)

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:17:33 PM)
Vera, we offer Spanish, French, German and Japanese at this time. We currently have students from 35 countries.

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 9:17:39 PM)
Pamela: Sorry I logged on late, What are you currently doing (you are an alumni right)?

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:17:41 PM)
I hope this doesn't apply to anyone here, but can rejected applicants obtain feedback? If so, when and how do they go about it?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:17:49 PM)
Vera--we have about 35 countries represented in our MBA program

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:17:57 PM)
(Pam types faster) ;-)

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:18:06 PM)
Vega, I am an Alum and Asst Director of Admissions.

CaptainQ (ID=15) (Feb 13, 2002 9:18:13 PM)
?Corporate recruiters have commented that CMU needs to teach its "quantitative jocks more people skills". Can you comment on this and what you plan to do to address this?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:18:24 PM)
Linda--yes, we offer feedback appointments during the summer.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:18:47 PM)
Pamela--do you want to mention what you'll be doing in the future?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:19:23 PM)
Captain--the program is loaded with opportunities for our students to work on people, teaming and leadership skills.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:19:23 PM)
Captain, one thing that is different is a class now offered during Mini 1 of your first year: ABC. This stands for Analysis of Business Conditions and teaches you in a case format about Strategy and Organizational Behavior issues found in different industries. This is largely paper and presentation driven.

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 9:19:28 PM)
?Given the economy as it is, how are prospective GSIA graduates faring in their job search?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:20:08 PM)
Sorry....I will be joining an Operations Strategy firm shortly. I was pushed back about 6 months due to the economy.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:20:11 PM)
Vega--this year is more challenging than past years, for sure, but our career placement staff is working even harder to find opportunities for our students.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:20:41 PM)
A follow up to the earlier interview questions: What is the role of the interview at CMU? Are they blind or has the interviewer reviewed the application?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:21:01 PM)
The interviewer has reviewed the app if it has been received. If the app has not been received, we look at the resume and the first two pages of the app.

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 9:21:02 PM)
? How can you weigh on showing his/her interest on CMU? I want to visit the school, but I am not in a position to do so.

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 9:21:04 PM)
Laurie, could you please comment on what's the recruiter's impression of the graduate from CMU? will they have the impression that CMU graduate is technical oriented?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:21:09 PM)
Linda--we review the application in preparation for the interview, so that we can ask any questions we have about the application itself.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:21:34 PM)
OK. Thanks.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:21:48 PM)
BongSoak--we know not everyone can visit the school. Make sure you stay in touch with us so we know you're interested.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:22:02 PM)
BongSoak, we certainly encourage you to attend the MBA Forums held (hopefully) in your country. Where are you?

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 9:22:16 PM)
I'm in Seoul

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:22:30 PM)
Do you mind if applicants contact you outside of applications and forums, etc. ?

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 9:22:44 PM)
Sure, Laurie

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 9:22:55 PM)
I have heard that many applicants from the last round are waiting for the end of this round to hear about admission decisions. Is it possible that applicants from this round will have to wait until the next time as well?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:22:56 PM)
OK, they can contact me!: pwirth@andrew.cmu.edu

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:22:57 PM)
xinyan--companies know that no matter what area a student is targeting for their job (marketing, consulting, finance, etc), that they will have excellent technical skills!

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 9:23:07 PM)

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:23:08 PM)
Oops....meant to say, Of course!

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:23:12 PM)
Linda--not at all. We host regular chats for prospective students, for example.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:23:21 PM)
Do you have any advice for wait-listed applicants?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:24:00 PM)
Linda--general advice for waitlisted students is to make sure we know they're still interested. Update us about any changes in their candidacy that will help with our decision--any promotions, accomplishments, new references, test scores, etc. We re-review waiting list candidates along with every subsequent application round.

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 9:24:22 PM)
Laurie, follow up on the interview question. Are all admitted students interviewed (i.e. are there some applicants accepted into the program without interviewing)?

try (ID=30) (Feb 13, 2002 9:24:23 PM)

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 9:24:32 PM)
Laurie, what kind of person do you typically put on the waiting list?

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:24:39 PM)
Try we see you.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:24:49 PM)
Be introspective...think of areas you may be lacking address them: such as GMAT, TOEFL, promotions at work, English classes you are taking, an additional recommendation.

try (ID=30) (Feb 13, 2002 9:25:05 PM)

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 9:25:13 PM)
sorry my question should have been "were all admitted students interviewed"

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:25:21 PM)
Vega--we try to interview everyone that is offered admission.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:25:47 PM)
How do you evaluate re-applicants? Are re-applicants at a disadvantage or advantage? When you review the new application, do you have the evaluation from the previous year's app?

try (ID=30) (Feb 13, 2002 9:25:50 PM)
I met you at Charlotte. I sent in my application on Jan. 31. I would like to know when I can get an interview set up. Thanks.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:25:55 PM)
xinyan--if we ask someone to be a member of the waiting list, it means that they have strong credentials and could potentially be admitted.

raj_tx (ID=26) (Feb 13, 2002 9:26:12 PM)
I think the average work experience is about 5 years. Does having a masters degree make up for lesser work experience?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:26:26 PM)
Hi Try! We are still reviewing applications and making decisions on interviews.

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 9:26:27 PM)
? Do you consider the number of already waitlisted people when you make a decision on each round?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:26:45 PM)
Linda--we do have reapplicants every year, with many being successful. Since reapplicants need to compete vs. the new applicant pool in the second year, there isn't a real advantage or disadvantage of reapplying, but reapplicants do benefit from the experience of applying in the prior year--and many take advantage of feedback opportunities.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:27:21 PM)
For reapplicants, we review the interview notes and all materials inside the application. If the student received feedback last year, it is good to see they addressed those concerns.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:27:36 PM)
What have the successful reapplicants done to be successful the second time around?

bamboo88 (ID=33) (Feb 13, 2002 9:27:57 PM)
Linda, I have very slow connection. Is it just me? I use road runner.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:28:12 PM)
bamboo88, I don't know why you are having problems. Would you like the tech support for our chat hosting service?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:28:24 PM)
Linda--successful reapplicants have strengthened their application from the prior year. The ways to strengthen will vary from person to person, so some candidates find feedback helpful.

peter (ID=32) (Feb 13, 2002 9:29:03 PM)
Linda, may I ask questions now or should I wait to Q&A?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:29:10 PM)
hi peter--welcome

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:29:12 PM)
This is the Q&A, but thanks for asking.

Markose (ID=20) (Feb 13, 2002 9:29:22 PM)
? What are the pros and cons of applying in the second round (and later rounds) this year

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 9:29:44 PM)
Pamela, how's the life in CMU? What do you like about CMU?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:29:45 PM)
Markose--you should apply in the round where you have the strongest possible application rather than rushing to apply earlier. We plan to have space through all four rounds.

peter (ID=32) (Feb 13, 2002 9:29:56 PM)
thanks, Hi Laurie, I have heard that CMU sent out invitation for interviews to everyone with a GMAT of >650 for the R2, is it true?

Markose (ID=20) (Feb 13, 2002 9:30:01 PM)

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:30:18 PM)
peter--someone else asked me that--not true at all! We review all of the application, not just GMAT when we extend interview invites. You could be invited within a few days of submitting your application, or at any time over the next few weeks (up till you get a decision from us).

raj_tx (ID=26) (Feb 13, 2002 9:30:30 PM)
hi Laurie, I think the average work experience is around 5 years in CMU , do you consider part time work experience and will having a masters degree help in the process?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:30:34 PM)
Xinyan, Life at CMU is fun too! We have dozens of clubs and 219 people to get to know on a friendly basis. More activities than you possibly have time for.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:31:33 PM)
raj--we consider everything in your application when we make a decision. The typical student has a range of 3-8 years of post-undergraduate experience.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:31:47 PM)
Letters of rec. Do you expect busy recommenders to fill out your specific form? Do you look negatively on letters sent by the recommender to all the schools an applicant is applying to and merely attached to your form?

peter (ID=32) (Feb 13, 2002 9:32:02 PM)
Laurie -- could you please explain why some applicants (r2) received invitations 9 days after they submitted the apps, while others still haven't, does that mean those who have not received invitations are to be dinged? thanks

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:32:24 PM)
Linda--we accept letters of reference in all forms.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:32:28 PM)
Letters--I like to see a recommender has merely filled in the x's and attached a'home-grown' letter. It shows they value the person.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:33:02 PM)
peter--see my previous explanation about interview invites. It could happen right away, or any time before a decision is made.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:33:05 PM)
Please feel free to post your questions.

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 9:33:19 PM)
?Laurie, could you tell me how many Korean 1R applicants are accepted?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:33:41 PM)
BongSoak--there were several, but I don't know the exact number right now.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:33:49 PM)
For both of you: If you were to choose 3 attributes you would like to see in CMU students, what would they be?

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 9:33:55 PM)
Laurie -Would the difference between 690 and 720 GMAT play a large role for admission?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:34:18 PM)
analytical, personable, leader -- 3 is not enough!

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:34:34 PM)
Ability to work in a team or as a leader, charismatic, intelligent

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:34:37 PM)
We could be here all night. If you want to list more, I don't mind.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:35:00 PM)
focused...person that makes an impact...well-rounded

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 9:35:11 PM)
Pamela, could you comment on what kinds of real world project a student could involve in CMU?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:36:37 PM)
Xinyan, our project courses are with large and small companies in the Pittsburgh area within marketing, finance, entrepreneurship and operations areas. Does that answer your questions?

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 9:36:47 PM)
Laurie, a friend of mine at CMU told me there has been a change in the GSIA MBA curriculum...a reduction in the number of classes required from 5 to 4? Was there a reason for doing so?

Markose (ID=20) (Feb 13, 2002 9:36:49 PM)
Xinyan, I was quite fascinated by the concept of the management game. My friends tell me it is a great experience - real life dynamics

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:37:20 PM)
Vega--that is true. We used to have 5 courses in the fall semester, and we eliminated one this year. We want to make sure that our students can balance their classroom activities with all of the other outside the classroom experiences that make an MBA so valuable for students.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:37:48 PM)
I believe that BongSoak has a question on the floor and Vera also, unless I missed your replies.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:37:53 PM)
Yes, Markose. It is an experience, for sure. One that I can't give justice to here in this format. For a greater explanation, email me at pwirth@andrew.cmu.edu

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:38:42 PM)
Vera--probably not, both are strong scores and the GMAT is only one part of the admissions decision.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:39:13 PM)
BongSoak--did your question get answered?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:39:20 PM)
Vega, the reason for doing so is that students didn't feel like they had enough time to be involved in more activities. I had 5 classes per mini and think 4 would have allowed me a large number of luxuries! Of course, you can always take 5 or 6 classes if you like.

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 9:39:45 PM)

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:39:51 PM)
I was encouraging a client interested in high-tech and entrepreneurship to apply to CMU and he was concerned about CMU's Pittsburgh location. He felt a school in Silicon Valley, the Boston area, or the Research Triangle of the south or a similar location would offer more opportunity. Could you comment?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:39:54 PM)
can you repeat it for me?

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:39:57 PM)
BongSoak, please repost.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:40:26 PM)
wow--Pittsburgh would surprise your client, Linda! High technology and entrepreneurship have been driving Pittsburgh's renaissance for the last several years. Biotechnology, due to the strengths around our university community have been a particular focus.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:40:36 PM)
Educate us, please!

CaptainQ (ID=15) (Feb 13, 2002 9:40:44 PM)
can you also talk about investment bank opportunities also for your finance graduates?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:40:52 PM)
Regarding location. Tech is a difficult area anywhere right now. I believe we have an Entrepreneurship center and Alumni base to offer students what they need here.

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 9:41:06 PM)
as well as Consulting (especially International technology)

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:41:42 PM)
So we have people here interested in international tech consulting and IB.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:42:00 PM)
When we surveyed our MBA alumni, we found that 40% had been involved in startup ventures!

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:42:23 PM)
That's a significant number.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:42:33 PM)
Pittsburgh has made a complete transformation from steel to technology.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:42:45 PM)
Yes, we have a large number of people going into IB and Consulting from here. What is your question, again? I'm sorry.

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 9:42:58 PM)
? Due to the huge increase in applicants this year, are there plans to increase the class size or will it still be @220...

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:43:20 PM)
Vega--we're still targeting 220-230

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:43:21 PM)
Captain Q and Vera asked about post-MBA opportunities in IB and consulting for CMU grads.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:43:51 PM)
30% of our students go into Consulting. I don't have the IB Stats handy but it is sizeable as well.

peter (ID=32) (Feb 13, 2002 9:43:52 PM)
Laurie -- is that true the r2 is the round that receives the most apps, if yes, how do you allocate your seats to different rounds? thx

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:44:18 PM)
Pam, which are the major consulting firms recruiting at CMU?

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 9:44:38 PM)
?Can you give a number on how many grads go into brand/product management?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:44:39 PM)
peter--yes, round 2 is typically the highest volume. We estimate how many offers to make as the year develops and use a waiting list process if we're uncertain what the pool will look like later.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:45:03 PM)
Captain--you can find stats for the class of 2001 on our website at www.gsia.cmu.edu/mba. It includes details broken by function and industry.

CaptainQ (ID=15) (Feb 13, 2002 9:45:10 PM)
ok thanks!

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:45:13 PM)
Good question. This is found on our website but I'll try and recite a few here: Booz Allen and Hamilton, PwC, Deloitte, AT Kearney, we always have a handful that go to BCG, Bain and McKinsey as well.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:45:49 PM)
Vega--marketing placements was about 13-14% last year--you can see our website for details too :-)

PaulBodine (ID=19) (Feb 13, 2002 9:45:53 PM)
Have you found that the "dot-bomb" phenomenon has reduced the number of students interested in your Master's in e-Commerce program?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:46:02 PM)
Paul, not yet. E-commerce isn't going away...merely changing.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:46:22 PM)
BongSoak--I think you had a question?

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 9:46:37 PM)
Not at the moment.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:46:46 PM)
ok--just wanted to be sure

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:46:48 PM)
Do you resent it or appreciate it when applicants who are wait-listed, write and say "I have heard from School X and have to respond to them by Date Y. Is there any possibility you could give me an answer before Date Y. I would prefer to attend CMU."

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:47:24 PM)
I don't resent it. Having been an applicant once, I appreciate the difficulty in the decision.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:47:25 PM)
We don't resent it at all, Linda! We just can't always promise an answer in the timetable they're seeking. We know that a candidate may not be able to wait for a decision from us if they have an offer elsewhere.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:48:21 PM)
What is a common mistake applicants make in their applications? as wait-listed applicants?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:49:02 PM)
One common mistake is in the essays--not really answering the question we pose, for example.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:49:04 PM)
I see the most common mistake as a person that has received feedback but hasn't done anything to improve those issue (s) in the last year.

SeanK (ID=36) (Feb 13, 2002 9:49:30 PM)
What is the rate of acceptance for a flex time student @ Laurie ?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:49:57 PM)
Sean--we have a strong applicant pool for flextime, and typically the acceptance rate is pretty high. I'd say more than 50%, even though the admitted flextime class and full-time classes have very similar profiles.

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 9:50:02 PM)
Can you please expand on international opportunities - semesters abroad/trips/internships etc.?

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:50:08 PM)
Pam, as an alum, are you happy you attended CMU? Why?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:50:48 PM)
Vera--we have a new study abroad program this year. We also offer 4 languages as electives within the MBA program, as well as several 'international business' electives.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:50:50 PM)
Vera, we have a new program this year. It is geared to spending 7 weeks in 3 locations: Bratislava, Warsaw and Berlin. I can explain more if you like.

peter (ID=32) (Feb 13, 2002 9:51:02 PM)
Laurie - could you brief on what the flex program is? thx

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 9:51:20 PM)
thanks, Pamela. I am very interested.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:51:39 PM)
Yes, I am happy as an Alum. I met some incredible people, learned a lot and greatly increased my income upon graduation going from Industry to Consulting.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:51:54 PM)
peter--the Flextime program is an evening version of our MBA for working professionals in Pittsburgh. Our flextime and fulltime programs are identical, except for the scheduling.

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 9:51:59 PM)
Pamela, add-on to Linda's question: was there anything you would have done differently at GSIA?

try (ID=40) (Feb 13, 2002 9:52:29 PM)
hello, Pamela,

peter (ID=32) (Feb 13, 2002 9:52:36 PM)
thx Laurie, yet, can one not originally from Pittsburgh move to Pittsburgh to attend the flextime program?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:52:50 PM)
peter that does happen from time to time. We have candidates who transfer within their company to Pittsburgh to do the program, for example.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:52:51 PM)
NO...except maybe sleep more. I took all the classes, was a Club President, was involved in just about everything...loved it. Except the last 6 months...then it was golf time!

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:53:12 PM)
Can I answer a question for you Try?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:54:08 PM)
got quiet suddenly :-)

peter (ID=32) (Feb 13, 2002 9:54:10 PM)
thx Laurie

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:54:16 PM)
you are welcome!

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 9:54:22 PM)
Any questions?

peter (ID=32) (Feb 13, 2002 9:54:27 PM)
yes, about overseas applicants.

try (ID=40) (Feb 13, 2002 9:54:36 PM)
I met you in Charlotte. My name is Lin Cao. I talked to you but was not able to set up an interview. I sent in my application on Jan. 31. I would like to know when I can have an interview with your program.

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 9:54:36 PM)
Hi, Laurie, Could you please comment on how CMU develop the soft skills of a student?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:54:46 PM)
Vera, we changed the format from a semester abroad to several schools since many students weren't going. We thought this may be a good option. There are very few schools that operate on a Mini system which makes semester abroad difficult.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:54:50 PM)
xinyan--good question! Students are continuously working on teams, leading teams, making presentations, etc. We have several required courses and electives to help students develop their 'soft' skills. One popular elective is taught by instructor from Carnegie Mellon's world-famous Drama Department 'Acting for Business Students' which helps our students be more effective communicators, speak in front of an audience, etc.

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 9:55:09 PM)
I have plenty of questions, just did not want to occupy all the time...

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:55:13 PM)
Try, we are still reviewing applications and will get back to you as soon as we can.

Markose (ID=20) (Feb 13, 2002 9:55:49 PM)
?Pamela as an alumni I want to understand what opportunities you had to take courses from some of the other schools in CMU

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:56:28 PM)
Markose, I could have taken other classes but with over 100 electives, I never did. I couldn't take myself away from the Business stuff. But I could have if I wanted to.

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 9:56:37 PM)
Is it possible that applicants from this round will have to wait until the next time to hear their admission decisions? Also, what's the acceptance rate of interviewed applicants?

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 9:56:40 PM)
? this is a silly question, but I'm going to ask it anyway...I've been invited for an interview: Should dress by strictly formal attire, or is business casual acceptable?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:57:00 PM)
Vega--business attire is best

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:57:13 PM)
Vera, if all your materials were received by Jan 31st you are in 2nd round. I don't know the stats on interviewed and accepted.

PaulBodine (ID=19) (Feb 13, 2002 9:57:15 PM)
Historically, the percentage of U.S. underrepresented minorities at C-M has been 5% or lower. What do you estimate it will be for the class entering this fall?

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 9:57:27 PM)
Sounds great. Since I'm an international student, I'd like to immerse into the International business environment ASAP with better soft skills.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:58:01 PM)
Vera--let me just tag on to Pam's answer. We may have some candidates placed on waiting list, so they wouldn't get their final decision until later in the year.

peter (ID=32) (Feb 13, 2002 9:58:30 PM)
what one shall do if WLed?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 9:58:36 PM)
Paul--we believe it will be measurably higher than 5%. This year, we became a member of the Consortium for Graduate Study in Management, which has put Carnegie Mellon on the radar screen for more candidates.

raj_tx (ID=26) (Feb 13, 2002 9:59:19 PM)
are there any considerations to increase the number of students admitted this year?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 9:59:38 PM)
Raj, we plan to keep the number to 220-230 this year.

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 9:59:42 PM)
Laurie, I beg your pardon please. What do you mean by 5% ? is it the acceptance rate?

raj_tx (ID=26) (Feb 13, 2002 9:59:44 PM)

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:00:06 PM)
No, that was the rate of underrepresented minorities accepted to CMU in the past.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:00:13 PM)
xinyan---no, I was answering Paul's question about the proportion of minority students at Carnegie Mellon.

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 10:00:27 PM)
Are there activities for spouses of students to be involved in?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:00:40 PM)
Vega, yes we have a Partners club.

PaulBodine (ID=19) (Feb 13, 2002 10:00:42 PM)
U.S. underrepresented minorities, NOT international students.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:00:52 PM)
Good point.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:00:56 PM)
That's what I was referring to, Paul.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:01:12 PM)
Where do most students live?

Lin (ID=41) (Feb 13, 2002 10:01:13 PM)
Do you consider US permanent residents from another country minority or international?

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:01:17 PM)
Is housing easy or hard to find?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:01:26 PM)
Most students live in Shadyside or Squirrel Hill, each within walking distance, and students can take public bus for free if necessary. Housing is interesting.....prices don't reflect quality here. I highly suggest coming to look at it if possible.

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 10:01:40 PM)
Laurie, could you please advise on the percentage for International women?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:01:41 PM)
Pittsburgh is a great place to live--most students live very close to campus. Housing is readily available and very affordable!

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 10:01:50 PM)
How's parking availability ;)

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:02:12 PM)
Vega--parking is a little more scarce ;-)

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:02:39 PM)
xinyan--the proportion of women MBA's is about 26-27% right now

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:02:44 PM)
Parking is difficult. I suggest getting a spot in the lots for $30-$50/month or taking the free bus.

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 10:02:50 PM)

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:03:06 PM)
Any other questions?

raj_tx (ID=26) (Feb 13, 2002 10:03:19 PM)
Is there a consideration to be able to grant guaranteed loans to all admitted students?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:03:25 PM)
Lin, a US PR is a US PR.....you are not international nor a minority. You have the same status as a US Citizen.

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 10:03:36 PM)
Pamela - do students socialize a lot outside of class?

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 10:03:56 PM)
Laurie, how do you proceed the waitlisted when they give additional materials?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:04:00 PM)
Vera, yes, there are many socializing activities going on all the time.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:04:10 PM)
raj--we have been working with various lenders to provide a no-cosigner loan for international students--haven't reached any agreements as of yet

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 10:04:15 PM)
Pamela, could you please comment how you feel about CMU, before join the program, and after?

raj_tx (ID=26) (Feb 13, 2002 10:04:31 PM)
thanks Laurie

peter (ID=32) (Feb 13, 2002 10:04:44 PM)
Pam - How do you look at a US PR or Naturalized citizen who was born and educated in another country, say, China, vs. an applicant strictly from china? thx

Lin (ID=41) (Feb 13, 2002 10:04:50 PM)
Thanks. It is confusing because different schools have different way to interpret the USPR.

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 10:04:58 PM)
If there is club or activity that one wants to start at CMU...is it possible to do so?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:05:06 PM)
Xin--I had done a TON of research before applying to B--school...about 2 years. Therefore my expectations were exceeded when I graduated...I knew what I wanted and I got it.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:05:06 PM)
BongSoak--we re-review the application and supplementary materials with each admission round, so when we are reviewing round 2 candidates, we are re-reviewing round 1 candidates on the waiting list.

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 10:05:40 PM)
thanks, Pamela. Hope I could have the same experience as you did.

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 10:05:53 PM)

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:06:01 PM)
Peter, we look at USPR and US Citizens the same.

PaulBodine (ID=19) (Feb 13, 2002 10:06:18 PM)
If someone on the wait list sent you an update letter every two weeks would you consider them overzealous? Every three weeks?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:06:40 PM)
Not necessarily if they had something important to say. Paul, make us remember you for valid reasons...not just 'face' time.

Lin (ID=41) (Feb 13, 2002 10:06:44 PM)

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:07:18 PM)
Paul--we want to know if someone is interested, but we would expect if they're writing they have some new info to provide us each time

Markose (ID=20) (Feb 13, 2002 10:07:32 PM)
? How much involvement does the school have with the local community

Lin (ID=41) (Feb 13, 2002 10:07:44 PM)
I have sent in my application, what should I do now other than waiting to hear from you?

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:07:49 PM)
Markose, we have Specials Olympics and I have a dream Foundations.

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:08:04 PM)
Lin, you should just wait. I'm sorry.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:08:21 PM)
Lin--I know waiting is difficult! you'll be hearing from us as we process your application if we need any additional info, so just hang in there :-)

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:08:32 PM)
Last 3 questions.

Lin (ID=41) (Feb 13, 2002 10:08:37 PM)

xinyan (ID=13) (Feb 13, 2002 10:09:02 PM)
Thanks, Laurie and Pamela. Have a Good night to everybody.

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 10:09:07 PM)
Laurie, Desperately hope to see you at CMU this year.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:09:10 PM)
You're welcome.

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 10:09:12 PM)
I have taken a year's worth of graduate level econometrics/economics and statistics. Will I still need to take Probability and Statistics and economics courses?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:09:20 PM)
thanks very much xinyan...g'nite!

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:09:33 PM)
BongSoak--thank you for coming in!

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 10:09:46 PM)
? add-on to Vera: do you allow exemption from core classes?

BongSoak (ID=21) (Feb 13, 2002 10:09:47 PM)
Thank you all.

Lin (ID=41) (Feb 13, 2002 10:09:52 PM)
Thank you all and have a good night. Hope to hear from cmu soon.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:01 PM)
Good night.)

Markose (ID=20) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:03 PM)
Thank You Linda for hosting this chat. Thank you all.

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:04 PM)
Vera--you can earn an exemption for our required courses if you've already got that knowledge.

PaulBodine (ID=19) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:06 PM)
Thank you Carnegie-Mellon!

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:16 PM)
Thanks very much everyone!

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:16 PM)
Vera and Vega have questions on the screen.

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:17 PM)
Thank you so much! It was very informative. Laurie-I will see you next week.

Vega (ID=25) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:17 PM)
thanks you Laurie, Pamela, and Linda.....good night

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:21 PM)
did you catch them?

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:26 PM)
thanks Vera :-)

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:40 PM)
Thank for coming, everyone!

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:42 PM)
I think I got it, Linda.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:10:56 PM)
Thank you again all for participating this evening. Special thanks to Laurie and Pamela for joining us and to Paul Bodine for his assistance.

Vera (ID=24) (Feb 13, 2002 10:11:02 PM)
Pamela-May I contact you for more information? Thanks a lot, this was very helpful!

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:11:05 PM)
We look forward to seeing you at future chats. Here is a list of currently scheduled chats:

LaurieStewartCMU (ID=9) (Feb 13, 2002 10:11:10 PM)
thank you again, Linda for the invite!

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:11:14 PM)
February 19: Cornell's Johnson School; March 11:Wait-list Chat

PamelaBarnhillCMU (ID=23) (Feb 13, 2002 10:11:18 PM)
Vera, yes...pwirth@andrew.cmu.edu

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:11:26 PM)
Please check /chat/schedule.aspx#mba for exact times and details.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:11:31 PM)
You're all most welcome.

Linda Abraham (ID=17) (Feb 13, 2002 10:11:38 PM)
Have a very good evening! Good luck with your applications!