2002 Dartmouth Tuck MBA Admissions Chat with Kristine Laca
2002 Dartmouth Tuck MBA Admissions Chat with Kristine Laca
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Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 8:59:49 PM)
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 8:59:57 PM)
First I want to welcome you all to Accepted.com's Tuck Admissions Chat.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:00:09 PM)
I also want to welcome Kristine Laca, Tuck's Director of Admissions, and Mike Barrows, Liz Lajoie, and Matt Smith, Tuck second-year students. And last but not least, I want to welcome Paul Bodine an Accepted.com editor.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:00:16 PM)
Thanks to everyone for joining.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:00:24 PM)
To give you some sense of the diversity in the Tuck student body, I am going to post brief bios from our Tuck students:
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:00:29 PM)
I guess he will edit all our mistakes
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:00:37 PM)
Mike received his License in Economic Science from the University of Grenoble in 1986 and his B.A. in Economics with French from the University of Kent at Canterbury in 1987. After a year selling textiles in West Africa Mike joined British Airways and spent six years working his way up through the Marketing department and traveling the world. Mike then moved to HG Asia, selling North Asian equities to institutions across Europe. Promoted to head the North Asia desk Mike then moved to Credit Lyonnais in 1997. After taking a year off to ski in Whistler and tour Europe on a motorcycle Mike joined his father's small engineering company to prepare the company for his father's retirement before entering the Tuck School at Dartmouth as a member of the Class of 2003. Outside the classroom Mike can often be seen riding a motorcycle, at least until the snow falls when he swaps the bike for skis.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:00:47 PM)
After graduating from Dartmouth College in 1997 with a B.A. in History, Liz was a Senior Consulting Associate with Cambridge Associates, a Boston-based consulting firm providing investment advice to non-profits, pension funds, and private clients. Most recently, Liz spent her summer interning in marketing at L.L. Bean in Freeport, Maine. Additionally, Liz has played the oboe and served on the Board of Directors with the Brookline Symphony, a semi-professional orchestra servicing the greater Boston area. Native to New Jersey but a New Englander at heart, Liz is an avid runner, skier, snowshoer, and hiker. She is thrilled to be back in Hanover!
Paul_Bodine (Oct 22, 2002 9:01:05 PM)
Tuck doesn't make mistakes, does it? ;)
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:01:19 PM)
Matt graduated from Boston College in 1997 with a BS in Management. He worked for Aon Corporation, overseeing the company's business development activities within the hospitality industry. He has also has played in a critical role in a family-owned REIT. At Tuck, he is an active member of the Hockey Club and the Investment Club, co-chair of the Admitted Students Weekend, and Admissions Associate Interviewer. He also enjoys golf (when it's not snowing), skiing, fly-fishing, and travel.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:01:32 PM)
Now that you have the participants' backgrounds, let's move on.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:01:48 PM)
I encourage dialogue and discussion, but I would like to suggest a structure to make it easier to follow the threads of conversation. So here is the protocol: We will post material to the chat. If you have a question on that material, please type a '?' and then your question. The other participants or I will reply. If one of you wants to comment on the current topic, please jump right in. If you want to start a different topic, please type '?'.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:01:58 PM)
If the crowd this evening grows and a moderated chat would be more beneficial, we'll switch to that format to avoid the chaotic feel that some other chats have had. When we switch to a moderated chat, all your questions will come to me. I will choose the questions that have the broadest application and those questions will appear in the main window for our guests to reply to. If and when we switch to a moderated format, you will only see your question in the main window if and when it is chosen. You will not see it if it is not chosen.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:02:09 PM)
Final request: We would like to avoid the brief summary of qualifications (or even the long laundry list) followed by the question, "Can I qualify?" Or "What are my chances?" This isn't the forum for that kind of question.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:02:31 PM)
We are ready!
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:02:32 PM)
Please feel free to pose your questions.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:03:11 PM)
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:03:12 PM)
When you look at a file, what do you look at first? Last? How do you review a file?
Ben Monson (Oct 22, 2002 9:03:20 PM)
?Your first deadline was last Friday. Any feeling on the number of applicants vs. last year?
candidate03 (Oct 22, 2002 9:03:20 PM)
With the early deadline, will students all be notified on 12/20 or will it role?
src3 (Oct 22, 2002 9:03:20 PM)
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 9:03:37 PM)
? Matt, I see that you're a member of the Hockey Club. I played in both HS and College. How big is the club at Tuck? Who do you play?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:03:38 PM)
Well, it depends on the file - we are fairly comprehensive in the review process.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:03:41 PM)
We see you src3.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:03:43 PM)
Ben, the Early Admit round was new this year. There were just under 400 apps for the early round.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:03:44 PM)
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:04:13 PM)
Where does your eye go first? What do you save for last, Kristine?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:04:17 PM)
Candidate 03 I think we will notify on or before 12/20. The on or before part allows for some surprise.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:04:18 PM)
The Hockey Club is one of the most popular clubs on campus. Over 50% of the students on campus play on one of the teams. All skill levels are welcome to play hockey.
CalBear99 (Oct 22, 2002 9:04:34 PM)
?Tuck has many different rounds of which you accept your applications. Do you have a breakdown of the % of total applicants in each round and their acceptance rates?
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 9:04:36 PM)
? Do you have a fixed percentage of people to be picked from each round?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:04:38 PM)
Linda, I usually start with the application itself -
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 9:05:07 PM)
? Matt, is it ice hockey or floor hockey?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:05:13 PM)
Deeps, we do not have any fixed % - it depends on the applicant pool
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:05:18 PM)
?what are Tuck's strengths? Concentrations, courses, affiliated institutes, etc.
l_gold (Oct 22, 2002 9:05:23 PM)
when you review candidates, do you place them in "pool" by background, work experience, gender, etc? and then pick the best from each pool?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:05:24 PM)
Cal, there is an analysis from a few years back in a chat with Sally Jaeger on the Business Week site. Basically I feel earlier is better.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:05:35 PM)
timely (Oct 22, 2002 9:05:38 PM)
? Any insights for the living situation? I was told that most first year students live on campus. What happens the second year? and any suggestions for those of us who never lived on campus as an undergrad?
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 9:05:50 PM)
kcrobins (Oct 22, 2002 9:05:51 PM)
How would I find out about merit scholarships at Tuck?
CalBear99 (Oct 22, 2002 9:05:58 PM)
Thank you Mike!
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 9:06:06 PM)
? thanks Kristine, but has there been a trend in the past few years ?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:06:17 PM)
Wannabe exec, Tuck has a lot of strong points but programmatically, we specialize in a general management focus and extensive teamwork.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:06:24 PM)
l_gold: it is hard to characterize exactly... We have no set formula.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:06:25 PM)
Most of the single students seem to live on campus during their first year; many of the married students live off campus during the 1st year. If you have the chance to live on campus, I highly recommend it. It is a great way to get to know your fellow classmates. As for second year, everyone lives off-campus. Often they live together in homes that are passed on year to year.
Deanette (Oct 22, 2002 9:06:32 PM)
?What percentage of the applicants receive financial aid? What percentage receive scholarships? Do you have to apply by a particular round to receive a scholarship?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:06:33 PM)
wannabe, Tuck's strength is general management: there are no concentrations as such. You're free though to specialize in your choices of electives to concentrate in an area you like.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:06:40 PM)
Actually Cal, it was last year's chat. You can find it at http://www.accepted.com/chat/transcripts/2002/mba01282002.aspx .
l_gold (Oct 22, 2002 9:07:05 PM)
? is it true that most of the grades are team grades?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:07:16 PM)
Deeps: We have selected most candidates from the first three rounds.
mba2003 (Oct 22, 2002 9:07:19 PM)
Kristine: 2?s...I serve as an advisor to a couple of startups (outside of work, for personal development / interest). Would this be considered an extracurricular activity? Second, if I wish to submit a resume with my application, what's the best route?
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:07:22 PM)
?I am 35. Will my age be a problem?
kcrobins (Oct 22, 2002 9:07:28 PM)
? Is off campus rent as expensive as it appears (approximately $1400 for a 2/2)?
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:07:46 PM)
Let's hold the questions for a minute...
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:07:52 PM)
Deanette, around 70% of the class receives financial aid
Ben Monson (Oct 22, 2002 9:07:53 PM)
?How is the recruiting situation? I've heard that many top schools, Tuck included, still have a significant portion of their 2002 class unemployed after six months. What is Tuck doing in this regard?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:07:55 PM)
l_gold, grades are individual, although we do work a lot in teams. Typically if you have a team project, all members receive a team grade, but the project is just a portion of your full term class grade.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:08:19 PM)
wannabe, I'm 37. Tuck is treating me pretty well!
l_gold (Oct 22, 2002 9:08:35 PM)
? following up on the teamwork question, are teams picked by students or assigned?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:08:35 PM)
mba2003 - I would put it as professional extra curricular
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:08:49 PM)
We have a great turnout, and I'm going to switch to moderated mode.
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:08:51 PM)
Thanks, Mike. That's encouraging.
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 9:08:53 PM)
Sorry to come late
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:08:53 PM)
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:09:03 PM)
Off-campus rent will probably run from $1,000 - $1,200 for a two bedroom. Rent isn't cheap up here, but it isn't nearly as expensive as most major cities.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:09:04 PM)
In a moderated chat, all your questions go to the moderator (me). I will choose the questions that have the broadest application and those questions will appear in the main window for our Tuck guests tc to reply to. You will only see your question in the main window if and when it is chosen. You will not see your question on the screen if it is not picked.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:09:09 PM)
l_gold, teams are a mix. Some assigned (mostly fall term first year), and then picked by students. Most of my teamwork has been in teams that self-formed, so you do get to elect who you work with.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:09:14 PM)
Thanks Linda: we're going cross eyed trying to keep up!
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:12:14 PM)
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:13:14 PM)
l_gold, regarding teamwork, a lot of work is in teams: it means you really get to understand team dynamics
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:13:24 PM)
How has the response been to your Early Decision Program?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:13:43 PM)
We have had a great response - almost 400 applications.
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 9:14:01 PM)
what is the minimum no of years of work experience that tuck has taken?
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 9:14:08 PM)
? Does Tuck offer an Application Fee Waiver to current Peace Corps or AmeriCorps members? And if so, how would one go about applying for it?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:14:12 PM)
It is a great alternative for re-applicants and people who are sure that Tuck is where they want to be.
kcrobins (Oct 22, 2002 9:14:16 PM)
Tuck is considered strong in strategy - what are typical career paths for students whose focus is business/corporate strategy?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:14:49 PM)
Deeps, As with all things, there is a range. The minimum is zero (but it happens very infrequently).
IVTK (Oct 22, 2002 9:15:02 PM)
? Mike and Matt, How about the intern of your peers from China this summer? I know there are five Chinese students in your class.
l_gold (Oct 22, 2002 9:15:23 PM)
? q for students: have you started the recruiting process for internships/jobs? how is it looking so far?
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:15:34 PM)
?I am intimidated by Tuck's stats. My GMAT is 660 and feel I won't make the cut. What do you say?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:15:36 PM)
l_gold, recruiting for second years has started. Going well so far, we just started on campus interviews this week and many students are doing off-campus searches as well. The market is tight, but we keep our hopes up!
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:15:42 PM)
Keynes, We will occasionally offer waivers - please e-mail me directly so we can discuss
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:15:50 PM)
IVTK, I know two of my Chinese classmates returned to Hong Kong for their internships; the other three got internships in the USA.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:16:37 PM)
Kcrobins - Traditionally many Tuck graduates have filled the ranks of the more prominent strategy consulting firms after graduation. With many of those firms cutting MBA hiring recently, many students are pursuing strategy careers with general management firms.
Chris (Oct 22, 2002 9:16:40 PM)
Kristine, any idea of how many of those 400 are international?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:16:44 PM)
wannabe, our range is 540-800, so that's not an absolute clanger. But the GMAT is something you can control.
mba2003 (Oct 22, 2002 9:16:48 PM)
Tuck's application asks for work experience, but does not specifically request a resume. Is it problematic sending one in, and if not, how should one go about it?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:16:50 PM)
l_gold, fortunately the Tuck alumni network is a huge help in pursuing job searches, especially in a market like this one. I found my job this past summer through an alumni who really went to bat for me.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:17:10 PM)
Chris, we are still running the stats, so I cannot tell you that today (probably tomorrow I will know).
Ricampar (Oct 22, 2002 9:17:25 PM)
?Hi Kristine. I am from Brazil and applying in the Early Action. What does Tuck offer for partners? Is it possible for them to really participate in academic and community lives?
Chris (Oct 22, 2002 9:17:36 PM)
Kristine, of those 400, any idea of how many internationals ??
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:17:46 PM)
?Does Tuck's program have a global (not diversity, but global business) focus? If so, can you briefly describe how it is so?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:18:23 PM)
MBA 2003, Most people put the same information in the application
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:18:32 PM)
Ricampar, it varies on your visa status. Under the terms of some visas, spouses can't work in the US, but they can play a big part in the community which is one of the strengths of the school.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:18:33 PM)
Kcrobins - One good thing about the tough economic conditions are that there are a lot of companies coming to campus that have never hired Tuck students before.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:18:38 PM)
Ricampar, the partner network here is phenomenal. The partner group is really tight.
Jeff (Oct 22, 2002 9:19:08 PM)
How many students will be admitted to the '03 MBA program, 240 or 300? Also, what is the anticipated admit rate per round?
timely (Oct 22, 2002 9:19:22 PM)
?How does the career office work at Tuck? It seems to be very alumni oriented. Does that make it impossible to get some of the desired positions? Is that the main way students place where they have?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:19:58 PM)
Jeff: Our goal is a class no larger than 240
candidate03 (Oct 22, 2002 9:20:06 PM)
?Mike, where else did you apply and why Tuck?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:20:21 PM)
timely, I don't really understand your question. Tuck alumni are VERY supportive and that usually means we get a good chance at any position.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:20:29 PM)
Timely, just to add to Mike's comments: the career office definitely encourages students to work the alumni network. But that is by no means the only way to find a position. The career office sources many on-campus recruiting opportunities as well. It has a dual focus.
Deanette (Oct 22, 2002 9:20:30 PM)
?What has been the biggest challenge for 1st years?
timely (Oct 22, 2002 9:21:03 PM)
What is reality for the job placement? While alumni can help, sometimes I wonder if that is the only way the students were placed into those positions?
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:21:08 PM)
Deanette - I think the biggest challenge for 1st years is just getting back into school mode. As you can imagine, the school life is a lot different than the working world. The other thing I will add is that the workload is tough. I won't kid you about that. The first term was one of the most challenging periods of my life from a workload standpoint.
Moe (Oct 22, 2002 9:21:12 PM)
Matt, can you talk about the type of companies are that now recruiting that haven't previously?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:21:19 PM)
candidate, I applied to Wharton and Kenan-Flagler. Tuck was the best choice for me: I felt it offered everything I was looking for. Plus when I came to visit, I just fell in love with the place.
CalBear99 (Oct 22, 2002 9:20:44 PM)
?How does Tuck differentiate itself from the other programs who also boast a close-knit community (Sloan, Haas, Anderson, etc)?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:20:46 PM)
We strongly encourage people to visit Hanover.
Deanette (Oct 22, 2002 9:20:48 PM)
?If you are in a relationship, should you note on your application if both people are applying? Does it have any impact on the application?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:21:06 PM)
Timely, I found that the alumni network was helpful in getting a company, who didn't normally recruit at Tuck, to talk to me. Once the door was opened, however, the onus is on the student to nail the position. I found the alumni network simply a tool, not a necessity.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:21:53 PM)
Deanette: Absolutely! We have several partner couples attending Tuck.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:21:56 PM)
Cal - I think one thing that is different about Tuck is that we are located in a small town where we interact a lot with one another. You see your professors out for dinner, you pass your classmates on the ski slopes, and there are always tons of us out on the golf course (during 2nd year!). It's a VERY neat experience.
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 9:22:05 PM)
Did McKinsey recruit at Tuck from 2002 MBAs and 2003 interns ? As an applicant to Tuck AND as someone who wants to go into consulting, this is a very important question for me. Thanks in advance for answering this.
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:22:15 PM)
?Do you consider it odd and view it negatively if I state my career goal in IT consulting and state that I wish to concentrate in General Management?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:22:39 PM)
Calbear99, Tuck has a lot of unique points. We are a tight knit school, but we are also in a small town. We have the mountains in our backyards, etc etc. There is a true sense of community and energy here that I find unique.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:22:49 PM)
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 9:23:06 PM)
Kristine u mentioned that zero work experience people have also been picked. What outstanding characteristic led you to choose them for tuck ?
mba2003 (Oct 22, 2002 9:23:11 PM)
Matt: Did you find the workload was tough due to its quantitative rigor, or its sheer amount?
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 9:23:38 PM)
? For people from other countries, does not being able to visit the tuck campus have an impact on your application/admission etc ?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:23:47 PM)
DoubleCheck: McKinsey does recruit at Tuck, both for interns and full time. All of the big consulting outfits recruit here. No worries.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:24:22 PM)
Deeps: Outstanding applicants with strong leadership, academics and leadership (in the community, university and summer jobs).
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:24:33 PM)
Deeps, make the effort: difficult is not the same as impossible and it really is worth making the effort to come and visit: Tuck is unique
chowhound (Oct 22, 2002 9:24:34 PM)
Q? are there many people who upon graduation start their own company? Does tuck provide resources for entrepreneur-wannabes?
Ricampar (Oct 22, 2002 9:24:40 PM)
?Are you facing a decrease in Latin American applications due to difficult situations faced by Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela and others right now? Could you feel this trend in Early Action?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:25:30 PM)
chowhound, the proportion is small right at graduation, but there are plenty of resources. We have a professor here whose specialty is entrepreneurship, and a great private equity centre.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:25:49 PM)
Ricampar: No, we are actually seeing more people applying.
candidate03 (Oct 22, 2002 9:26:11 PM)
?Liz, where else did you apply?
timely (Oct 22, 2002 9:26:19 PM)
Is the interest in strategy consulting going to hurt applicants in an economic situation like today?
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:26:24 PM)
My apologies for repeating this question: Does Tuck's program have a global (not diversity, but global business) focus? If so can you briefly describe how it is so?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:26:29 PM)
I get the sense that a lot of Tuck grads start companies 5 years out and use the Alumni network to support their efforts.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:26:34 PM)
Candidate 03, I only applied to Tuck. For me, it was more a question of whether to get an MBA. I knew if I got one, it would be from here. I learn well in a collaborative setting and love the Hanover area for a number of reasons. Tuck was perfect.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:27:33 PM)
Timely - Now isn't an easy time to get a job with any of the strategy firms. All b-schools are facing this dilemma. The firms are still coming to campus and recruiting, but these firms aren't recruiting like they were in the late 90's. So the simple answer is that you can definitely still get strategy consulting jobs, but they aren't just sitting there waiting for applicants like they might have a few years ago.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:28:02 PM)
Wannabe: Yes, it has a global focus - in curriculum, with faculty and with students (33% international) - also research and filed studies in international locations. We also have global internships and the International Field Study program.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:28:41 PM)
I was looking at your site today and was very impressed by the Field Study in International Business opportunities.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:29:00 PM)
It is very popular.
Guest (Oct 22, 2002 9:29:06 PM)
Do Tuck professors have exposure/experience in the "real" business world?
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 9:29:10 PM)
thanks Kristine and Mike :)
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 9:29:19 PM)
Liz, thanks for answering my question. Just to double-check, are you verifying that McKinsey DID recruit 2002 MBAs and 2003 MBA interns ? (the reason I ask is that I didn't see McKinsey in the "Careers" tab of the BW profiles of Tuck and that is a concern for me).
Ben Monson (Oct 22, 2002 9:29:24 PM)
?Students. Have any of you participated in the field study for international business program?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:30:08 PM)
Ben, not me. As all my experience is overseas, I didn't feel the need.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:30:09 PM)
DoubleCheck: I believe McKinsey did not come on campus to recruit, but they did take Tuck students. They are one of our top recruiters. Try looking at www.tuckjobs.com for more info on past McKinsey action. I personally am not pursuing strategy consulting, but know many people here do, and McKinsey is a top pick.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:30:57 PM)
Ben - The field study will take place between Thanksgiving and Christmas. A few students participated in August, but none of us did. I am hoping to participate in the program this winter.
mba2003 (Oct 22, 2002 9:31:16 PM)
mike, which professor is specializing in entrepreneurship?
Deanette (Oct 22, 2002 9:31:21 PM)
?How do you evaluate transcripts? How can you tell the level of difficulty involved in the course?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:31:22 PM)
DoubleCheck, McKinsey has a strong connection with tuck-- lots of alumni-- they have done pro bono consulting projects for Tuck in the past as a favor.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:31:27 PM)
mba2003, Prof Horvath
Chris (Oct 22, 2002 9:31:32 PM)
When can ED applicants expect to receive the dream call ?? Only 20 Dec. ?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:31:54 PM)
Chris, I believe we are calling on or BEFORE 12/20... this adds an element of surprise!
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:32:16 PM)
mba2003, we also have the Dartmouth Entrepreneurial Network which acts as an incubator
CalBear99 (Oct 22, 2002 9:32:21 PM)
?For Essay #3 on a recent personal goals, would talking about my efforts in finally learning basic skills in automotive maintenance be irrelevant?
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:32:28 PM)
I am worried about my low verbal GMAT score though my verbal ability is good. (1) Is there a minimum verbal score you expect? (2) How do I suggest I prove to you that my verbal ability is not weak?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:32:38 PM)
Deanette: We read them very closely, looking for progression, success and breadth/depth. Sometimes, it can be a bit challenging though.
Moe (Oct 22, 2002 9:32:49 PM)
How much have your career goals changed after a year at Tuck?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:32:59 PM)
Cal, do you think that will impress the admissions committee?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:33:02 PM)
Wannabe exec, we do not have a minimum GMAT score. Should you have a score that is lower than you'd like in verbal, your written application should help reflect your writing and communication skills.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:33:29 PM)
Moe, my career goals have changed considerably. I came to Tuck thinking I would follow the legions of MBA's into Consulting or I-Banking. After a few months of thinking about what I really wanted to do, I decided not to recruit on campus and to conduct my own independent job search in real estate. It was a great decision, and I had a wonderful summer experience.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:33:31 PM)
Moe, mine have changed enormously.
smckenzie (Oct 22, 2002 9:33:36 PM)
? How difficult is it for married couples to obtain on-campus housing?
Pete (Oct 22, 2002 9:33:45 PM)
At first glance Tuck seems to send an overwhelming amount of its graduates into consulting and financial services. How much interaction does the Tuck faculty have with leaders in emerging industries like biotech and how responsive is the curriculum?
IVTK (Oct 22, 2002 9:33:55 PM)
? Mike, Matt and Liz, many schools mention teamwork, close-knit, collaborative or collegial nowadays, which make us think all top schools are the same. But since you had an intern this summer and must interact with ones from other schools, is there any real difference?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:34:09 PM)
smckenzie, married students get priority for living in Sachem, which is not technically on campus but is a 5 minute drive away and inexpensive, college sponsored. Couples with children get first preference but many married, childless couples live there... lots of Tuck neighbors!
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:34:31 PM)
Thanks, Linda and great to hear that, Kristina. Any professors' names that come to your mind who are involved in international programs, especially emerging markets?
candidate03 (Oct 22, 2002 9:34:50 PM)
?If companies don't come to campus is that a sign that Tuck is not a priority. McKinsey did go to others schools?
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 9:34:56 PM)
Liz, thanks for the prompt answer, again ! That answered my question !!
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:35:03 PM)
Pete, we used to have around 80% of our grads go into IB and consulting. That's now at about 60%. Connections in Biotech and IT are excellent through our Digital Strategies Center.
timely (Oct 22, 2002 9:35:19 PM)
Liz, How does that work in terms of the stats, since most of the strategy firms send their own employees back to school. Is that where most of the McKinsey placements came from?
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:36:04 PM)
IVTK - I would encourage you to visit each of the programs you are applying to. Every school is going to try to tell you how great they are, how tight the community is, how great the alums are, etc. I would encourage you to come to campus and experience each school for yourself.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:36:23 PM)
Candidate 03, I am not sure. I am sure that we have had recent hires in the past. You would have to check with other programs to see if McKinsey went on campus.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:36:30 PM)
Fit is VERY important when deciding where to go. I can't emphasize that strongly enough.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:36:35 PM)
IVTK, I went to a recruiting event last year and saw one of my classmates introduce two students from the same school to each other. After a term they hadn't met each other. It's one of Tuck's attractions that everyone knows everyone.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:36:41 PM)
Timely, not sure what you're asking, can you clarify?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:36:43 PM)
Wannabe: There are so many - it may be best to consult the Tuck website (Joe Massey is the director of the Center for Asia and Emerging Markets), also check out professor Vijay Govindarajan on our website...he does some amazing research on Global strategy.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:36:43 PM)
Matt, I assume you did so. What convinced you Tuck is right for you? Were your expectations met?
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 9:37:22 PM)
? Kristin, how did you distinguish applicants with leadership and without, which part of application can best demonstrate it?
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:37:23 PM)
I misspelled your name as Kristina, Kristine. Sorry.
CalBear99 (Oct 22, 2002 9:37:29 PM)
Mike, I suppose not. Thanks for setting me straight!
Chris (Oct 22, 2002 9:37:43 PM)
Any idea of how many of the 240 places you expect to fill during the ED ?
Moe (Oct 22, 2002 9:37:52 PM)
Quick question about the application, fairly big change in questions this year. From what you have seen so far, are you getting the information you want from students?
Deanette (Oct 22, 2002 9:37:56 PM)
?What has been the most rewarding experience you have had at Tuck thus far?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:38:13 PM)
Chris, it depends entirely on the strength of the pool: there are no quotas
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:38:14 PM)
Linda - I wanted to be at a small school in a great location where I would make a close knit group of friends for life. Tuck has given me that and more. I visited over 20 schools while deciding on which b-school to attend, and Tuck was just the right fit. I knew it as soon as I set foot on campus.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:38:18 PM)
Deanette, I would cite my forum project experience. It's an independent, team-based study of a real life business problem. My group helped a shoe company develop a launch strategy for a new retro shoe brand. Other groups did entrepreneurial projects or other consulting-based work. A great way to apply classroom learning to the real world. Very rewarding, esp. the interactions with the company.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:39:07 PM)
Deanette, the whole experience has been fantastic. On a personal level learning to play hockey was a personal triumph.
candidate03 (Oct 22, 2002 9:39:10 PM)
? Does the Tuck community ever seem TOOO small?
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:39:16 PM)
I couldn't be happier with my decision to attend Tuck. My expectations were definitely met - and exceeded. Tuck isn't the business school for everyone, but the people that choose to come here - I think you would have a hard time finding a happier bunch.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:39:18 PM)
Candidate 03: Because we only have 240 students in a graduating class, we provide a large number of recruiting opportunities tailored to each firm's needs.
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 9:39:21 PM)
Another CONCERNED question about your Placement Statistics: Is it possible for you to include detailed placement statistics, like many other top schools do? As you all can relate to, in this difficult environment, future placement opportunities are definitely a concern. It would be more empathetic and '(prospective) student-friendly' if you could inspire more confidence by coming out with more details on your placements.
l_gold (Oct 22, 2002 9:39:29 PM)
? to the admissions officers: what do you think is the biggest mistake applicants make?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:40:23 PM)
Sapphire: We look for leadership in many areas (community, university and professional). We look for it in interviews, resumes, and letters of recommendation.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:40:24 PM)
candidate, not to me, but I can see how it could to someone who absolutely, positively has to be in a city, but to be honest, why would a person like that apply to Tuck?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:40:35 PM)
Candidate 03, I love the smallness. Tuck never seems too small to me. I personally like that when I go running, I always pass two or three Tuckies, either also running or in a car. It's definitely a small school, and it's not for everyone. But if you thrive in a close knit environment, Tuck's great.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:41:07 PM)
I-gold: The biggest mistake is trying to be someone other than yourself.
IVTK (Oct 22, 2002 9:41:11 PM)
Funny, Mike, I get what you mean.
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 9:41:22 PM)
From many other angles, Tuck is my top school. But, this is one area I am still concerned about: Any thoughts on providing more detailed breakdown of the compensation, the number of recruits at your top hiring companies etc.? Your initiative in this direction would be really, really appreciated.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:41:22 PM)
Double check - I am not familiar with the statistics released by other schools. I think if you check out www.tuckjobs.com you will find detailed information there.
Ricampar (Oct 22, 2002 9:41:29 PM)
?How do you consider different grades, specially from countries where there isn't a GPA standard scale, like Brazil? Do you consider students within their original country or region?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:42:13 PM)
Double Check, try Tuckjobs.com
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 9:43:05 PM)
Thank you, Kristine
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:43:21 PM)
For the students -- What do you like best at Tuck? What would you like to see improved?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:43:26 PM)
Ricampar: We have a fairly good knowledge base on foreign education by country.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:44:02 PM)
Linda, I love the experience of being here: I've never seen a friendlier, more supportive group of people in any context.
Deanette (Oct 22, 2002 9:44:30 PM)
?What are some of the campus improvements going on right now?
CalBear99 (Oct 22, 2002 9:44:34 PM)
?How close is Tuck to the rest of Dartmouth College? Is there a lot of interaction between the Tuckies and the rest of Dartmouth?
Guest (Oct 22, 2002 9:44:51 PM)
? for Kristine. Would you appreciate both of the recommendations coming from a place of work, or one from the college professor ?
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:44:54 PM)
Linda - I mentioned it earlier, but the community at Tuck is what sets it apart in my eyes. I've never been around a more impressive group of people, and I will miss this place incredibly next year. I will call upon the Tuck network often in my career because I know they will be there to help out.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:45:00 PM)
My favorite thing about tuck is the all-encompassing nature of it. People come here for an experience, not just an education. I am continually impressed by the energy and intellectual richness that abounds here.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:45:04 PM)
Deanette, the next dorm should be going up in about 3 years. The last one was completed in 2000 and looks like a 4 star hotel!
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:45:37 PM)
Cal Bear, there is little to no interaction between tuck and Dartmouth. We do provide some mentoring services to D undergrads, voluntary of course. But for the most part, the campuses are physically and socially very separate. I was a D 97 here and don't feel like I'm repeating my undergrad experience in any way.
killbot (Oct 22, 2002 9:45:48 PM)
?do you have separate criteria for evaluating international students esp. from India / China .. quite a few colleges have much higher GPA and GMAT scores as compared to domestic students.
candidate03 (Oct 22, 2002 9:45:52 PM)
?What would you all change?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:45:56 PM)
Linda, since you are coming to visit us at Tuck next week, you should be able to tell people more from personal experience about the sense of community and focus that each student receives.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:46:18 PM)
candidate, I'd like a better canteen!
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:46:28 PM)
As for changes, that is a tough question.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:46:33 PM)
I am really looking forward to my visit. I too emphasize the importance of visiting schools, if at all possible before applying.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:47:05 PM)
We'd all love more jobs, but that is out of our control. Tuck does a great job for us on that front, but now we need the economy to help us out as well.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:47:06 PM)
Killbot: No. We use the same criteria for the whole pool - academics, leadership, teamwork, accomplishments, diversity and desire to contribute to the Tuck community.
candidate03 (Oct 22, 2002 9:47:18 PM)
?Matt - there has to be something. No person or place is perfect.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:47:29 PM)
Candidate 03, one change the school is doing a great job on is making the social events here more open and appealing to all students, including families. I have noticed that there is a much larger diversity of social events this year than last. Tuck is an inclusive place and the school has done a great job incorporating student feedback.
IVTK (Oct 22, 2002 9:47:41 PM)
? Mike, Use some words to describe Tuckies or Tuck? ( Linda likes to ask this question:))
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:48:00 PM)
Actually, last year I asked for the 3 qualities that Tuck most wanted to see in applicants.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:48:06 PM)
I would like to see Tuck continue to change their focus from mainly Consulting and I-Banking careers to other industries. This is ongoing, but we aren't there yet.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:48:16 PM)
I was going to change my questions, but if you like it we can use it again.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:48:21 PM)
CalBear99, just wanted to say that we always have access to the undergrad services-- like the performing arts center, gym, sports center, etc. We get full access to all their facilities.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:48:50 PM)
IVTK: friendly, extremely bright, inclusive, supportive, hockey-playing.
CalBear99 (Oct 22, 2002 9:49:04 PM)
Liz - does that mean Tuck does not leverage off of the engineering school (Thayer?) for technical knowledge? Thanks for answering!
timely (Oct 22, 2002 9:49:10 PM)
Any insights on someone to speak with in terms of diversity and the community, especially for someone who did not get chosen for the diversity weekend event next month?
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:49:13 PM)
Candidate O3 - Tuck is by no means perfect. I would never say that. No program is. I agree with you on that. All in all though I don't have much I would change. Tuck is a good fit for me.
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:49:13 PM)
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:49:22 PM)
Three qualities: I would say academic ability, desire to make a difference (in business and the community) and leadership.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:49:51 PM)
Skiing is HUGE at Tuck. Killington is only 45 minutes away, and we make great use of our student passes!
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:49:53 PM)
CalBear99-- we do have some interaction with Thayer, on a social and academic basis. We have a joint degree with Thayer and also can take classes there, and vice versa. I am working in a study group with a Thayer student for one of my classes this term. We also have social events with the other Dartmouth graduate programs.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:49:58 PM)
wannabe, oh yeah! Dartmouth has its own hill about 10 miles from the school and Killington is a 40-minute drive away
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:50:14 PM)
How about X-Country?
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 9:50:15)
The Dartmouth Skiway is only 15 minutes away, and we have cross country skiing outside of our door.
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 9:50:24 PM)
? The essay question this year is very unique. Is there room for creativity in responding to it?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:50:26 PM)
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:50:27 PM)
Linda, right outside my door!
Ricampar (Oct 22, 2002 9:50:27 PM)
Tell me about sports activities, pls. Is there a Tuck soccer team or a Soccer Club???
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:50:31 PM)
Timely: Please feel free to e-mail me directly. We had an overwhelming response and could not accept everyone - we try to keep the event as personalized as possible.
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:51:14 PM)
Any heli-skiing?...just joking ;)
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:51:16 PM)
Ricampar, there are lots of sports clubs -- soccer, tennis, squash, biking, triathlon, running, basically anything you might want. We host the MBA soccer tourney in May.
Stone Farmer (Oct 22, 2002 9:51:20 PM)
How's the social life at Tuck?
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 9:51:34 PM)
Matt, thanks for answering. I did double-check at www.tuckjobs.com. It does not provide any details on (i) sign-on bonus, (ii) other compensation, (iii) number of recruits at your "top recruiting companies". It would be great to know these metrics.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:51:35 PM)
timely (Oct 22, 2002 9:51:41 PM)
Something that is never advertised directly.. how does the grading system work at Tuck?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:51:51 PM)
Keynes: We've had great feedback on the essay questions. I think there is plenty of room for creativity because there is no one "correct" answer.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:52:15 PM)
Stone Farmer - The social life is very active. The Tuck crew is a very social bunch.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:52:20 PM)
Stone, you have a group of over 400 bright, friendly, sociable people in a wonderful setting. There's always something going on
l_gold (Oct 22, 2002 9:52:42 PM)
? are there research opportunities available for students? how easy is it to find a project with a professor?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:52:50 PM)
Timely, grades here are on a simplified system-- high pass, satisfaction plus, satisfaction, and low pass. Grades are extremely de-emphasized here. People don't talk about it and the focus is definitely on learning.
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 9:53:02 PM)
To ADCOM: In terms of diversity, do you only look at it from the "ethnicity/nationality" or do you also give consideration to more granularity wherever you can ? For example, most of the candidates from India tend to be from elite schools from India versus candidates born, brought up in India from a more humble background and who went to small, regional schools but who have made it equally big in their careers - do you think the latter adds to the diversity of your applicant pool? I am one such candidate (from a humble background from India, with some great career progression in the USA in the last six years, without the help of any elite degrees).
Stone Farmer (Oct 22, 2002 9:53:06 PM)
Deanette (Oct 22, 2002 9:53:10 PM)
?Are there any Preview Weekend type events that are open to the public for registration? Are there any dates where interviews are offered on a Saturday?
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 9:53:15 PM)
timely (Oct 22, 2002 9:53:17 PM)
Thanks Kristine. I will email you this week.
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 9:53:21 PM)
Liz, under so heavy a workload, how did you make your studies and activities balance?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:53:35 PM)
l_gold, you can pursue independent study with supervision from the faculty. Because of the human scale of the school, it's VERY easy to get to know he faculty. In addition there are also specialised research centres (Asia & Emerging economies, private equity, digital strategies and corporate governance) who also get students involved in their research projects.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:53:52 PM)
Sapphire, it's an important thing to find balance. I decided last fall that there were a few things that I wasn't going to let slip, like running and time with friends. I think first year here is as much an exercise in setting and keeping priorities, as it is in academic matter. Tuck really teaches you to distill down what is important to you, professionally, academically, and personally. Balance is definitely possible!
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:54:19 PM)
No problem, Stone Farmer. Hopefully you will come up here for a visit and check out the social life for yourself! We have a lot of fun.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:54:23 PM)
Double check: We look for diversity of perspectives, thoughts, experiences -
Deanette (Oct 22, 2002 9:54:45 PM)
?How many of the 1st years have part time jobs on or off-campus?
Ricampar (Oct 22, 2002 9:54:49 PM)
Could you please give me some details about the market research elective?
Stone Farmer (Oct 22, 2002 9:55:33 PM)
Matt, I'd love to come visit. Any weekends you'd recommend for visiting?
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 9:55:38 PM)
Mike, I see Tuck hasn't yet taught you how to spell specialize with a "z"! J/K
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:55:44 PM)
Ricampar, I haven't take the market research elective yet but plan to. The professor who teaches it is phenomenal, I have him this term for database marketing and he's great, a real expert in his field.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:55:57 PM)
What is the role of the students in the admissions process?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:56:07 PM)
Deanette: We have open visitations any day - just register on our website. We ask people to be here in the morning so that they can attend class and meet other students.
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 9:56:21 PM)
Kristine: Thanks for clarifying.
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 9:56:57 PM)
Thank you, Liz
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:56:59 PM)
Linda: We have 32 second year students (Mike, Liz and Matt are three of them) who conduct on-campus interviews.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:56:59 PM)
Keynes, with a name like that you should appreciate correct English spelling!
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:57:08 PM)
Stone Farmer - We have fun most weekends. There is always some social event going on with Tuckies in attendance.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 9:57:31 PM)
Do the students make recommendations? Are they part of the decision-making process?
Ricampar (Oct 22, 2002 9:58:02 PM)
How do you contact accepted students?
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 9:58:07 PM)
? For the 4 short answer questions: should they be uploaded as 4 separate documents, or instead one document with 4 pages?
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 9:58:14 PM)
Is there a resource on your website with alumni contact information? this is just to talk to them about Tuck and the MBA program.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:58:36 PM)
Ricampar, we generally call accepted students to notify them of the good news. Typically, the person who conducted your interview will call you; otherwise, a member of the admissions staff.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:58:46 PM)
Linda: Yes, all of our interviews have the same "weighting" - whether I interview the person or one of our second-year students.
Ricampar (Oct 22, 2002 9:59:23 PM)
?Kristine, why is the application so different this year?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:59:30 PM)
wannabe, you can contact Tuck admissions and they'll give you the names of alumni you can contact. It wouldn't be fair to just hand out their details to anyone on the net.
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 9:59:51 PM)
? Kristine, what are the most common questions you will ask at interview?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 9:59:53 PM)
Ricampar: We want to keep people guessing a bit.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:00:17 PM)
Sapphire, do you want us to give away ALL our secrets?
tuckie2003 (Oct 22, 2002 10:00:17 PM)
Kristine: What advice would you give someone who felt that they had a poor experience interviewing? Is there any possibility for a second interview?
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:00:37 PM)
? Mike: Of course! :)
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 10:00:46 PM)
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:00:58 PM)
Sapphire, trust me: if I got in, you can too!
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:01:12 PM)
The more, the merrier!
candidate03 (Oct 22, 2002 10:01:30 PM)
?Mike - What role do students play in the admit process?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:01:45 PM)
Sapphire: Personally, I like to get a good sense of the person behind the application. Most schools may start with the GMAT; we usually start with the interview because the personal connection is that important to us. I ask all sorts of questions.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:01:59 PM)
candidate, 32 of us 2nd years do admissions interviews
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 10:01:59 PM)
Kristine: When you have two candidates, comparable in all other metrics, from India applying - one with a humble background and one with an elite background (both with impressive careers), do you give any consideration to the humble background at all? Do you take it that the candidate with humble background could bring more diverse and interesting experience and perspective than a bunch of other "elite" students from India? I apologize if I am coming across as trying to elicit an answer from you right now - but, my main intention here is to make you think about this aspect. Thanks for taking time to think about this - especially in the context of the high number of Indian students making it into the top schools - most of them seem to have similar background (degrees from IIT/IISc or IIMs).
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:02:43 PM)
Double Check: What a good typist you are!
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:02:48 PM)
tuckie2003, basically, no.
Stone Farmer (Oct 22, 2002 10:03:17 PM)
Do students have a lot of time to play golf and go skiing in their time at Tuck?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:03:19 PM)
Double Check: I like people who can overcome a challenge.
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 10:03:19 PM)
? Do you consider doing phone interviews with people in more remote areas?
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 10:03:21 PM)
Thank you :)
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:03:45 PM)
Kristine and 2x, cut and paste does wonders.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:04:22 PM)
Stone Farmer - During your second year you will have time for golf and skiing. It is a bit tough during the 1st year, but it can be done with some creative scheduling.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:04:43 PM)
Kristine, Mike, Matt and Liz have agreed to extend the chat until 10:30 their time, if there is interest, so please continue to post your questions.
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 10:04:59 PM)
Kristine: I think you answered my question with that succinct one-liner. Thanks a bunch!
kklm (Oct 22, 2002 10:05:08 PM)
Kristine: I'm really curious to know any tidbits you might share in your thinking behind selecting the case study-type essay question. As someone with no experience answering these sorts of questions, I'm not so comfortable with it as an indicator of my ability, etc.
Ricampar (Oct 22, 2002 10:05:16 PM)
Operational problem: Some sent files lost their format when converted from .doc to PDF in the online app. Are you expecting this? I hope it won't affect any candidacy. I had this problem.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:05:19 PM)
Keynes: Yes, we often will hold a phone interview when we cannot set up an alumni interview or a person cannot come to Hanover.
snoopy (Oct 22, 2002 10:05:19 PM)
I was waitlisted last year. Do I have a better chance of getting in this year?
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 10:05:27 PM)
Is it too late now to schedule an interview for round-2?
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:05:29 PM)
Kristine, although you haven't revealed all your secrets, I have to thank you!
Pete (Oct 22, 2002 10:06:50 PM)
How competitive is Tuck's ski team for this year's downhill? I hear Harvard lets in the occasional Jonny Mosely for that event. Any merit to that?
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:06:54 PM)
What is the most sought after job at Tuck?
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:06:57 PM)
If my verbal score of GMAT is not as high as quantitative, can I make it with TOEFL?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:07:16 PM)
kklm, don't panic! The essay is the same for everyone.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:07:39 PM)
Snoopy, we love re-applicants, but it hinges on whether you have done something to make yourself a more appealing candidate since your last application.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:07:59 PM)
Deeps, whatever one suits you best! Personally I hope to be at McGraw Hill this time next year.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:07:59 PM)
Pete - Tuck has some great skiers. No question about that. If you like to ski, you will have a hard time finding a better place to spend two years. With that in mind, we usually compete quite well with HBS at our annual Winter Carnival. They beat us the last two years in the downhill, but rumor has it we have some strong 1st year skiers so this year could be different.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:08:24 PM)
KKLM: I would answer the question by how you would actually react if you were in the situation.
kklm (Oct 22, 2002 10:08:44 PM)
Mike: No panic here! I know we're all in the same boat .... :)
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:08:51 PM)
? for Kristine: When you review an application, which is the first aspect through which you scrutinize whether to continue reading the application?
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:08:54 PM)
? Last year, how many international students got scholarship support?
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 10:08:59 PM)
I know there is technically no "word limit" for the essay question. When does the Adcom typically stop reading? 1,000 words... 1,500?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:09:28 PM)
Ricampar: If you had problems, please e-mail me off line. We only know of two people who had a problem with a letter or recommendation.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:09:44 PM)
Sapphire, international students qualify for a loan of up to $30k each year. Some also receive scholarships.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:10:16 PM)
Keynes, I heard when the janitors come in and turn the lights off. :)
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:10:18 PM)
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:10:20 PM)
Thank you, Mike
l_gold (Oct 22, 2002 10:10:38 PM)
? to the students: is any aspect of Tuck disappointing to you? any frustrations with the program, etc?
Stone Farmer (Oct 22, 2002 10:11:18 PM)
?Better yet, what do you enjoy most about Tuck?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:11:22 PM)
l_gold, no disappointments for me. If anything, the program has exceeded my expectations.
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:11:24 PM)
Are there opportunities for people to get scholarships at tuck after getting there based on their performance in the class?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:11:29 PM)
l_gold, really no. The great thing about the size of the school is its amazing responsiveness: while many schools have an administration, ours is 6 people who know everyone by name, so getting things done is never a problem.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:11:40 PM)
Deeps: I usually start with the application itself - personal data, where is the person from, where are they currently living - that gives me the best perspective - then I dive into the resume, the essays, the interview and letters of recommendations.
Ben Monson (Oct 22, 2002 10:11:45 PM)
Students. Are any of you married? If so, how do your spouses like life in Hanover? How is the employment situation for spouses?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:12:11 PM)
l_gold, I will keep the friendships I've developed here for a long while. Tuckies stay active within the school, and with each other, long after they leave the Hanover plain.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:12:26 PM)
l_gold - I think all of us were applying to b-school two years ago during a very different economic climate. The days of $200,000 salaries and Porsches for signing bonuses were fresh in our memories. Things haven't turned out that way so some people are disappointed, but all in all I think most everyone is happy with their b-school decision.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:12:32 PM)
Kristine, how do you use the resume and job history in evaluating an applicant?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:12:40 PM)
Ben, I'm not married, but about 30% of my class is. Many people move here with their spouses. Many spouses work for the college, in the various academic departments or research centers. Some work in admissions or Career services. There are also opportunities in the Hanover area for employment, but it depends on your spouses' interest.
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:13:02 PM)
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 10:13:04 PM)
? To be more precise... is 1,500 words way too much for the essay?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:13:16 PM)
Sapphire: If accepted, we work very hard to make sure that people can attend (low interest loans, need based scholarships and merit awards). Our international loans do not require a co-signer.
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:13:52 PM)
Kristine, that's great!
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:13:58 PM)
Keynes, brevity is a virtue!
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:14:31 PM)
Ben, also, the partner network here is very active and supportive. Partners have their own social events, in addition to being included in all Tuck events. Some also audit Tuck classes.
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 10:14:32 PM)
Mike, so is patience... ;)
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:14:41 PM)
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:14:43 PM)
Linda: We look for accomplishment, progression, level of contribution, leadership.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:15:31 PM)
Keynes, very true, but ask yourself: when there are hundreds of applications to read, will Kristine prefer, all else equal, a longer or shorter answer?
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:15:35 PM)
As an Angelino from birth, I wonder: did any of you find the winter difficult?
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:15:49 PM)
Kristine, I guess you'll be eligible to answer this question next spring.
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 10:16:02 PM)
Are there any candidates admitted (2002/2003) who are more than 35 years old ?
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 10:16:04 PM)
Fair enough. I guess I have my answer then.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:16:14 PM)
Winter is great! Skiing, snowshoeing, x-country.... get out and enjoy it! There is nothing more beautiful than the Hanover woods after a fresh snowfall.
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 10:16:24 PM)
Kristine, do you make the final decision about EVERY application?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:16:26 PM)
Linda, not me, although a friend of mine from the Philippines had never seen snow before and it came as a bit of a shock to her.
Ben Monson (Oct 22, 2002 10:16:43 PM)
Liz. My wife is flexible and the sort of person who loves new places, people, etc. Helping her find a fulfilling job and making sure that she is included in the Tuck community are two of my biggest concerns. She has been in contact with some partners and is enthusiastic.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:16:54 PM)
Just buy a lot of fleece and some snow tires. You'll be all set. For the truly tropic, all of Tuck's buildings are connected internally so you don't have to walk outside if you don't want to =)
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:16:56 PM)
Double check: Yes, we have a few who would admit to being over 35.
Deanette (Oct 22, 2002 10:17:10 PM)
?How many reads does each application receive?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:17:12 PM)
double check, like me!
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:17:53 PM)
Kristine, those short essays are VERY short. Are you flexible regarding their length?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:17:57 PM)
Ben, that's great. I can't stress enough how inclusive Tuck is. I know many classmates wives, husbands, partners, etc. They are as much a part of my experience here as is anyone else.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:17:58 PM)
Wannabe - Yes, I see all applications. I am the person making the final call.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:18:17 PM)
Last winter was somewhat mild. If you are looking to spend your winters in sandals getting a tan, Tuck probably isn't the place for you. This isn't Siberia however, and the weather is far tamer than some people would lead you to believe. Hanover is a great place to experience a traditional New England winter!
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:18:25 PM)
? Is New Hampshire very cold?
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:19:00 PM)
Ben-- also-- I hear some partners look at the partner experience as 2 years to try something different-- a different job, a different life, a different location. Trust me-- Hanover's not too shabby a place to park yourself for 2 years. Look at it as a chance to try something new, and appreciate new things.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:19:00 PM)
Sapphire, in the winter yes: some days the temperature doesn't get above freezing.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:19:15 PM)
Deanette: Each application receives between two - three reads and then mine.
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 10:19:17 PM)
Mike, how do you find the student community from an age-perspective (not necessarily from the point of view of maturity etc.). Did you ever feel you were at a disadvantage in terms of your age - especially from a recruiting point of view ?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:19:25 PM)
Sapphire, but in the summer the weather is wonderful.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:19:26 PM)
Sapphire, yes, it's cold, but as long as you dress appropriately, it's fine. The buildings internally are very warm, no worries=)
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 10:20:04 PM)
Kristine, do I sense a pun in your reply about 35? Did you mean few people "admit to being over 35", or "we admit few people over 35"?
Ricampar (Oct 22, 2002 10:20:06 PM)
Is there any kind of exchange program with European schools during the program?
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:20:32 PM)
In the summer you are elsewhere, Mike.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:20:35 PM)
Double Check, I can say hand on heart that I've never felt disadvantaged in any aspect of the Tuck experience. It helps that I am probably the biggest kid here.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:20:44 PM)
Linda: We are not counting words on our end. Nevertheless, being able to express a complex thought in a concise fashion is a virtue.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:21:01 PM)
Linda, some of us were fortunate to get internships in the region over the summer.
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:21:04 PM)
? Kristine, who does the first 2 or 3 reads of the application?
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:21:09 PM)
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 10:21:15 PM)
wannabe_exec: Thanks for filling in that question for me!! (I didn't want to be pestering Kristine - she's the one who makes the final call, so...)
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:21:21 PM)
students, when do you usually finish homework each night?
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:21:27 PM)
I actually came up to Hanover every weekend from Boston this summer to hang out with my classmates, enjoy the great weather up here, and play golf inexpensively at the course!
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:21:48 PM)
Wannabe - no pun intended. We actually have quite a few people who are over 35 (whether they admit the fact or not).
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:22:00 PM)
Sapphire, it varies enormously. Some nights it can all be done by 9 or 10. Other times I've worked until 4am. But then I'm not very bright!
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:22:22 PM)
Sapphire, first year I generally finished up with study group around 9pm and then would do another 2-3 hours or work. Bed around midnight or 12:30. However, there was a guy in my study group who was married with a new baby who made a point to be home for dinner every night and home for good by 9. Students are responsive to others' needs.
DoubleCheck (Oct 22, 2002 10:22:31 PM)
Kristine: Now, that's reassuring. Thanks...really...for clarifying that.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:22:33 PM)
Fall term is tough. I mentioned that earlier. I often didn't get to bed before 2:00 or 3:00. I, however, had not yet fully managed time management like I should have. If I had really tried, I probably could have been done with my work by 10:00 most nights.
Ben Monson (Oct 22, 2002 10:22:37 PM)
Liz, I want business school to be an experience that strengthens rather than weakens my relationships. This is a big reason why Tuck is such a great fit.
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:22:48 PM)
Deeps: we have a small admissions committee of six people.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:23:27 PM)
How many members of the committee read each file?
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:23:37 PM)
I like sleeping!
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:23:44 PM)
Once you get through fall term, your schedule can improve drastically. I could be in bed right now if I wanted to. The fall workload is tough, but after that you can definitely get to bed at a decent hour. It is all about your priorities.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:23:48 PM)
Ben, absolutely. I guarantee Tuck won't disappoint you in that respect. If you're interested in getting a married students' prospective, definitely ask the admissions office for some names. My married classmates are always eager to share their thoughts!
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:23:58 PM)
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:24:26 PM)
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:24:27 PM)
Linda: between two and three + myself (so three - four)
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:24:48 PM)
? for the summer internships, would sufficient companies come to the campus or do we have to look out on our own?
CalBear99 (Oct 22, 2002 10:24:50 PM)
any last tips and words for us?
Ben Monson (Oct 22, 2002 10:24:53 PM)
Liz, I've talked to a few people, and my wife is in contact with a member of the partners' group. Thank you.
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 10:25:05 PM)
? What are the first 3 things that you glance at on an application?
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:25:20 PM)
Cal, if you're sure Tuck is right for you then make sure we know about it. In many of the interviews I've done, people haven't really just come out and said they want to come to Tuck. Sounds obvious, but it's a point worth making.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:25:30 PM)
Deeps - Traditionally only 40% of Tuck students take jobs from Career Services - best of times and worst of times. Over 90%, however, get their jobs through Tuck sources. I strongly encourage a two-pronged approach using an independent search and a search through career services.
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:07 PM)
CalBear99 (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:21 PM)
Mike, I have been very impressed with all the Tuck alumni I've met and Tuck is my first choice but how does one truly convey that?
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:25 PM)
Thanks, Kristine, Mike, Liz, and Matt. I will be visiting Tuck and hope that I get a chance to meet some or all of you. This has been great!
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:25 PM)
Definitely, I second Mike's point about making your interest clear.
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:27 PM)
Great advice, Mike.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:36 PM)
Thank you again all for participating this evening. Special thanks to Kristine, Matt, Mike, and Liz for joining us this evening and to Paul Boding for his assistance.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:37 PM)
No problem, Deeps. I was VERY surprised by that, but it tells you that there are a lot of great jobs out there that aren't recruiting on campus.
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:44 PM)
Cal, say so! Repeatedly.
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:46 PM)
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:47 PM)
CalBear99: Just be yourself and do your research - talk to current students and alumni - and try to visit the campus - so you can get the feel of the place. It's an important decision.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:50 PM)
We look forward to seeing you at future chats. Here is a list of currently scheduled chats:
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:56 PM)
Please don't hesitate to e-mail us if you have more questions!
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:26:56 PM)
Nov. 4 - Chicago with Don Martin, Director of Admissions, Chicago students, and additional adcom members; Nov. 11 - Cornell with Natilie Grinblatt, Director of Admissions, Cathy Dove, Associate Dean for the MBA Program, Dick Shafer, Associate Dean for Corporate Relations, and four second-year students; Nov. 18 -- Darden with Dawna Clarke, Director of Admissions and Darden students; Nov. 25 - UT-Austin with Matt Turner, Director of Admissions, Elissa Ellis, Assistant Dean of the MBA Program, and Ludy Cuello, President of the International MBA Student Assoc. and a co-chair of the McCombs Admissions Committee; Dec. 3 -- NYU with Julia Min and Stern students.
LizLajoieTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:27:08 PM)
Ditto! Good luck guys!
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:27:45 PM)
Please check http://www.accepted.com/chat/schedule.htm#mba for exact times and details.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:27:59 PM)
Have a very good evening! Good luck with your applications!
MikeBarrowsTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:05 PM)
Thanks everybody! and Good Luck with your Tuck applications
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:05 PM)
Thank you all!
wannabe_exec (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:07 PM)
Many thanks to you, Linda, for this facility!
CalBear99 (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:08 PM)
thank you very much!
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:10 PM)
thanks all of you.
Deeps (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:14 PM)
I case of any more questions can we get in touch with any of you personally ?
Ricampar (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:16 PM)
Thank you very much. Bye.
Sapphire (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:22 PM)
Thanks a lot!
IVTK (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:28 PM)
Thanks, Kristine, Mike, Matt and Liz.
Chris (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:30 PM)
Thank you all! And good luck for everyone!!
Keynes (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:32 PM)
Deanette (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:34 PM)
You all have been very helpful
kklm (Oct 22, 2002 10:28:47 PM)
Thanks all. This was really helpful!
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:29:14 PM)
Thank you all for your interest in Tuck!
MattSmithTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:29:19 PM)
Please feel free to get in touch with us!
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:29:44 PM)
Do you want to post e-mail addresses or the Tuck admissions office phone number?
KristineLacaTuck (Oct 22, 2002 10:30:09 PM)
Visit our website and there is a link to contact us.
IVTK (Oct 22, 2002 10:30:13 PM)
Thanks, Linda and Paul!
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:31:18 PM)
You can e-mail email@example.com and reference this chat and the person you want to contact.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:31:25 PM)
I'm sure it will get to the right one.
Linda Abraham (Oct 22, 2002 10:31:41 PM)
Good night. Thanks for the great questions and answers!