2002 UVA Darden Admissions Chat with Dawna Clarke
2002 UVA Darden Admissions Chat with Dawna Clarke
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Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 8:58:53 PM)
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 8:59:01 PM)
First I want to welcome you all to Accepted.com's Darden Admissions Chat.
Madhu (Nov 18, 2002 8:59:07 PM)
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 8:59:09 PM)
I also want to welcome Dawna Clarke, Director of Admissions, and Mike Terwilliger and Lauren Macleond, second-year students at Darden. And last but not least, I want to welcome Paul Bodine, one of Accepted.com's editors.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 8:59:15 PM)
Mike will be here soon.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 8:59:27 PM)
Lauren agreed to join us rather late in the day and didn't have a chance to send me a bio, but I have Mike's and I would like to share it:
Geovac (Nov 18, 2002 8:59:28 PM)
Understood. Thanks Lauren and Dawna.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 8:59:28 PM)
Thanks for having us Linda!
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 8:59:38 PM)
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 8:59:49 PM)
Lauren, could you tell us a bit about yourself and background? I hate to put you on the spot, but...
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:00:07 PM)
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:00:45 PM)
Mike Terwilliger received his undergraduate degree from Northwestern University in 1996 where he studied History and American Culture. Following school, Mike worked in politics for several years including a stint with Vice President Gore. Mike left politics in 1999 and helped found an e-commerce company focused on the government sector. Unlike most "dot-com's," this venture remains a growing and viable business. Despite its success, Mike chose to enter Darden for more formal business training and to solidify his skills. As a self-professed "Poet," Mike is uniquely positioned to answer questions or concerns from individuals with less traditional business school backgrounds.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:00:58 PM)
That was to provide Mike's promised info while Lauren types madly.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:01:10 PM)
Thanks to everyone for joining.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:01:13 PM)
I am a 2nd year at Darden, involved in a number of on-grounds activities. I am the Exec. VP of the Darden Student Association, an Admissions interviewer, a social chair, and a number of other activities.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:01:25 PM)
What did you do before Darden?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:01:28 PM)
Prior to Darden I was on the founding team of a number of startups in Boston, including a venture capital firm. Before that I was in sales at Philip Morris... and before that I was a history major at the University of Virginia. You have two liberal arts students with you guys tonight :)
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:02:06 PM)
We are trying something a little different tonight. In the past, we have enjoyed the spontaneity of unmoderated chats at Accepted.com. However, the increasing popularity of these chats meant that spontaneity was occasionally turning into chaos. So tonight, we are going to go to a moderated chat formal.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:02:30 PM)
I guess that fits Darden's general mgmt focus. :-)
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:02:40 PM)
In a moderated chat, all your questions go to the moderator (me). I will choose the questions that have the broadest application and those questions will appear in the main window for our Darden guests to reply to. You will only see your question in the main window if it is chosen.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:02:52 PM)
Please post you questions, and I will choose as many as possible from the ones you post and Dawna, Mike and Lauren will respond. You can also post follow up questions.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:02:55 PM)
Hi, Mike! Welcome!
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:03:05 PM)
Here's the first question.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:03:06 PM)
Thx. Glad to join you.
Tiger31 (Nov 18, 2002 9:03:11 PM)
Where do most of the 1st year students live, in dorms?
Campanario (Nov 18, 2002 9:03:14 PM)
?For me it is very important to know how partners are received and integrated among Darden community, classes and students. Could you please talk about specific and concrete examples of efforts that address this issue?
blueman (Nov 18, 2002 9:03:40 PM)
I am interested in the learning team in the case study; how are students selected into a team?
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:03:41 PM)
First, almost no one lives in dorms. Some people even opt for houses out in the country...lots of different options.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:03:49 PM)
I'll let Mike and Lauren answer that one.
mengdan (Nov 18, 2002 9:04:04 PM)
Will you treat an applicant initiated interview the same as the school invited interview?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:04:05 PM)
Most of the First Years live in a number of neighboring apartment complexes. With the recent addition of our parking garage, however, "neighboring" is getting farther away. Many of our students take advantage of the beautiful farmland surrounding school (15 minute drives) if they are more interested in a room with a view.
Edmund (Nov 18, 2002 9:04:52 PM)
Does Darden have a specific "quota" for applicants from different industries?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:05:16 PM)
My screen disappeared again for a few minutes. Both interviews are treated the same.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:05:57 PM)
As for partners question, I am not sure I have tons of data on that. I know the partners association is very active. Partners are always around at various Darden social events. I don't think partners have any problems being integrated into our community.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:06:01 PM)
Dawna, Sorry. Edmund asked if Darden has a specific "quota" for applicants from different industries.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:06:22 PM)
Hi, Edmund. We don't have a specific quota for industries. However, because Darden is a general management program, we definitely look for diversity in the industries that are represented.
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:06:28 PM)
Dawna - Most of us know that Darden is focused on business cases; are there any initiatives that are being undertaken to enhance this portion of instruction?
blueman (Nov 18, 2002 9:06:33 PM)
Lauren, what do you like most about Darden and how do you think it can improve?
Madhu (Nov 18, 2002 9:07:06 PM)
What are the international opportunities available, both in terms of internships and business prospects?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:07:29 PM)
The faculty do a really great job of integrating new cases and deleting obsolete cases every year. There are many new cases written each year as well.
blueman (Nov 18, 2002 9:07:48 PM)
How much weight do you put on the extracurricular activities?
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:07:54 PM)
Are there any options of taking classes outside the Darden school; if so, what are some of the popular classes students take?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:07:56 PM)
Blueman, in a very broad sense I would say "people" - the students are amazing, bright people who have so much to offer; the faculty is unparalleled (and we have tremendous access to them), and the administration is very focused on responding to our needs.
ajeph (Nov 18, 2002 9:07:58 PM)
?Would you describe the culture?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:08:29 PM)
Hi, Madhu, there are opportunities to study abroad at Darden or to work on an international business project. About 30% of the cases have an international component to them.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:08:50 PM)
Dawna, are their specific int'l programs? Or study abroad programs?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:09:00 PM)
In terms of improvement I would say that Darden is working on a very important set of initiatives right now to improve the global awareness of the school. Given that we are 30% international, it is incredibly important.
mengdan (Nov 18, 2002 9:09:16 PM)
Has Olsson Center for Applied Ethics done anything to restore corporate confidence? My brother is a PhD graduate of University of Virginia. He thinks highly of the Honor system in your school. Could you say something about it? Does Darden weigh more on the attribute of integrity?
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:09:35 PM)
I would describe the culture as collaborative. There is very little competition among students as far as grades, etc....if anything there is competition among students for helping each other. Before exams everyone gets together with their sections and reviews the course. I think that is unique element to our learning environment.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:09:52 PM)
Yes, in you're second year you can take electives outside of the business school. The most popular ones tend to be in the law school or in foreign languages. UVA (undergrad and other grad programs) are fantastic and it's a great opportunity to branch out.
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:10:24 PM)
Mike and/or Lauren: how is the internship recruiting scene at present? Do you see any new companies making the journey to C-ville?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:10:25 PM)
Mengdan - the honor code is incredibly important to us at the University (among all schools). The honor code allows us to have an incredible amount of freedom (e.g., take home exams, etc). Darden was the first business school to integrate ethics into our curriculum. It's been a mandatory class ever since the school was founded so we're very proud of that.......especially these days!
blueman (Nov 18, 2002 9:10:30 PM)
If an applicant has relatively less w/e, would you look at his/her extracurricular activities for his/her leadership potential?
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:11:03 PM)
Dawna: I have an interview scheduled for next month; however, I do not think classes will be available (its on 12/17). Will the adcom prefer me to come back in the second semester before they make a decision? How is this viewed?
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:11:15 PM)
Mike: could you tell us a little more about the learning teams? How did it help you get through your first year?
DCQ56 (Nov 18, 2002 9:11:25 PM)
? Lauren mentioned an international student body of 30%. Is this number expected to increase this year?
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:11:25 PM)
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:11:43 PM)
The internship recruiting market is just gearing up right now. I do know that we have had some new companies join us and some old ones return (like Pepsico, whose CEO is a Darden alum). We have had a number of briefings and initial recruiting activities, and there are some great companies who are really interested in Darden students.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:11:54 PM)
Hi, blueman. Most of our applicants have at least two years of work experience. It's fairly tough to get in with less than 2 years. However, it's really the quality of work experience rather than the quantity that's important.
Geovac (Nov 18, 2002 9:12:20 PM)
Hi, Dawna. In the latest Business Week rankings Darden was rated as no.2 for "schools that get the highest grades from their grads for faculty quality." Can you give us your take on why you think the students are praising the faculty?
adevera (Nov 18, 2002 9:12:28 PM)
Please discuss availability of loans to international students. Thanks.
brutus (Nov 18, 2002 9:12:35 PM)
?Can you describe the brand management recruiting opportunities? Do P&G, General Mills, and Kraft come to C-ville to recruit?
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:12:56 PM)
I had a great bunch of people on my learning team. In all honesty, I would never have made it through without them. Broadly speaking, we would divide up work each night and take turns teaching each other the cases. I had never had accounting/finance before Darden so it helped a ton.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:13:14 PM)
We just had General Mills here on Saturday to host our football tailgate and we already have one offer for a summer internship there.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:13:34 PM)
Mike, would you recommend that applicants bone up on quantitative basics or classes like accounting before starting b-school?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:13:35 PM)
Hi Geovac, I'm so glad you asked the question. I've been at Darden for 12 years and the faculty have been consistently ranked among the top 3 in the country. Teaching is clearly their # 1 priority. It's considered a real honor to be asked to teach in the first year program.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:13:58 PM)
All of the companies you mentioned were here for the Brand Marketing Forum last month, so I know they are interested in our students (although I am not sure if Kraft and P&G are recruiting on-grounds this year).
bt (Nov 18, 2002 9:14:08 PM)
Dawna: I 'm interested in school in China. Where can I get feedback from students who have already been there?
Keynes (Nov 18, 2002 9:14:13 PM)
Being that I'm doing a year with AmeriCorps in a relatively rural part of Alaska, it will be very difficult for me to make it to Charlottesville. Is there any other possible way to accommodate an interview?
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:14:15 PM)
Learning Team is also a useful learning tool in itself. There is much more to business than simply learning Discounted Cash Flows. Group dynamics are fundamental to business. LT really helped teach us about those issues.
blueman (Nov 18, 2002 9:14:18 PM)
Mike, could you introduce a little bit about the real world projects in Darden? Are they mainly in the courses?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:14:19 PM)
Yes, take accounting!! take accounting!
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:14:28 PM)
BT - you want to attend a school in China?
pawn (Nov 18, 2002 9:14:31 PM)
Did you experience any growing pains this year as the class size went from 240 to 300?
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:15:25 PM)
I think he means he's currently in China, but is interested in attending Darden.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:15:32 PM)
Hi, pawn. The planning that took place for the expansion of the class started several years ago, so fortunately it was pretty flawless. I think it's been a huge plus for the students and the faculty size has increased proportionately too.
bt (Nov 18, 2002 9:15:43 PM)
I mean the MBA exchange program. From your brochure it seems that you have a Chinese Europe Int'l business school.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:15:47 PM)
Linda, I don't think it is necessary to take any quantitative class before b-school. However, I would recommend an elementary accounting class to get yourself up to speed. Great books include "Ten Day MBA" and "Just in Time Finance." Both helped a ton.
DCQ56 (Nov 18, 2002 9:16:08 PM)
How many places do you expect to fill in the first round? Especially international?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:16:12 PM)
Totally agree with Mike - the 10-Day MBA is also a great exam prep.
blueman (Nov 18, 2002 9:16:16 PM)
Mike, what is the most popular course in consulting field?
mengdan (Nov 18, 2002 9:16:18 PM)
How about faculty accessibility?
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:16:24 PM)
There are actually lots of opportunities for real world projects in the second year.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:17:09 PM)
Mengdan - faculty is incredibly accessible. All of them have an open door policy and they stick to that. You can literally drop into faculty offices any time they're around (which is often).
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:17:10 PM)
Dawna: what subject areas are you looking to strengthen in the coming years? Is there any initiative to adjust the mix between case study/lecture/group project, etc.?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:17:22 PM)
We honestly don't have an established quota for each deadline. The number that we take is more dependent on the quality of the applicant pool.
ajeph (Nov 18, 2002 9:17:23 PM)
What are some of the most popular classes? Who are some of the most popular professors?
mengdan (Nov 18, 2002 9:17:26 PM)
Has your career service established any effective program to help students with individual jobs? International students, in particular?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:17:32 PM)
This is a very student-centric school and the faculty is here to teach.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:18:00 PM)
Is Darden affected by budget cuts at UVA? If yes, how so?
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:18:13 PM)
First, Darden Business Projects allow students to earn credit to working on outside business activities. The Batten Institute also allows students to work on developing their own business ideas. Essentially, if you have something you are interested in doing, Darden would help you get the experience.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:18:37 PM)
There are some fantastic business project opportunities in the second year. The first year is primarily case based. You can also compete in business plan competitions.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:18:42 PM)
Mike, could you give an example of a business project that students have worked on?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:18:51 PM)
Popular classes... First Year the curriculum is 100% planned, so it's the 2nd year where you have choice. Popular classes include Valuation, Corporate Strategy, Mergers & Acquisitions, Global Business Experiences (during Spring Break students go abroad), Consumer Marketing, and lots more.
Guest (Nov 18, 2002 9:19:07 PM)
Dawna, as an international student, I'm more concerned about Darden's prestige out of the North America. Could you please tell me what kind of measures Darden is taking to achieve that goal? I'm from China.
bt (Nov 18, 2002 9:19:18 PM)
Mike: How's the grading system at Darden. How many % get A?
Tiger31 (Nov 18, 2002 9:19:25 PM)
What kind of hours per week or day can 1st year students be expected to do on average, in terms of classes and studying? Can you describe a typical day for a 1st year student? Thanks.
Madhu (Nov 18, 2002 9:19:29 PM)
How diversified is the international student body by countries, gender, industries, etc.?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:19:32 PM)
We're fortunate not to be nearly as affected by the budget cuts. The vast majority of our funding is private so Darden isn't as dependent on state funds as is the undergrad program.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:20:21 PM)
Typical day: Classes 8am to 1pm; afternoon for individual prep/workout; 8pm - 10 or 11pm for learning team.
al712 (Nov 18, 2002 9:20:24 PM)
How is entrepreneurship seen as background for an applicant @ Darden?
Madhu (Nov 18, 2002 9:20:29 PM)
How important is community work to an applicant's candidacy?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:21:18 PM)
Once recruiting starts the "individual prep" time has to include networking, resume prep, and interviews. During recruiting season, though, there are generally Reading Days to help offset the time commitment.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:21:22 PM)
Roughly 30% of the second year class and 27% of the first year class are international. We try to have a fairly even distribution of international students. About 30% of the students are female. Industries vary widely; we do that intentionally. There's a heavy emphasis on class participation, so we want diverse industries represented.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:21:30 PM)
Hey bt, I don't know exactly how the numbers breakdown on the number of A's. There isn't any set curve. Therefore professors are free to give as many--or as few--A's as they are inclined. It is not much like undergrad, though. A's are not easy to come by at Darden. If you want the grades you have to hustle.
adevera (Nov 18, 2002 9:22:04 PM)
The brochure indicated that first year semesters follow a 3-2-3-2-3 rhythm for case studies. How many cases/week are covered? How do 1st years achieve the balance?
Guest (Nov 18, 2002 9:22:13 PM)
Dawna, nice to see you here. How about the first round application so far? Have u seen a rise?
bt (Nov 18, 2002 9:22:20 PM)
Linda. I'm not in China, but would like to learn more about China through Darden int'l opportunities.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:22:29 PM)
BT, sorry. I misunderstood.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:22:35 PM)
Balance is important in the admissions process. We like to see that applicants are involved outside of work whether it's in community service, hobbies, activities, sports, whatever floats your boat.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:23:05 PM)
It doesn't always exactly go 3-2-3-2-3... sometimes it varies. I think you end up doing about 300 cases in the first year.
Geovac (Nov 18, 2002 9:23:15 PM)
Can you tell us a little bit about how the case study works? Are all of the cases based on real life past or present examples? Are some of the cases actually studied on site or is all of the study within the classroom setting?
pawn (Nov 18, 2002 9:23:23 PM)
What are you looking for in a younger applicant (28)?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:23:51 PM)
First year balance is a learning experience: frankly, I believe that is among the most important lessons at business school - what to do, how long to spend, and what to forego. Just like life.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:24:02 PM)
China is a big priority for Darden. Our dean just visited China, we've had some speakers from China, and Rita Morrow, Associate Director of Admissions, is there now. Mike and Lauren, do you know of anyone who participated in an exchange program that BT could talk to tomorrow?
mengdan (Nov 18, 2002 9:24:24 PM)
Do you evaluate a test score of an international student in a pool with others from the same country?
blueman (Nov 18, 2002 9:24:27 PM)
Lauren, could you describe three characteristics of Darden students?
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:24:34 PM)
Mike, can you talk about the "morning cold call"?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:24:39 PM)
Potential is more of the focal point with younger applicants.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:24:59 PM)
Geovac, case studies are largely real life examples from all sorts of time periods. One of the best cases last year was an interactive Enron case that was prepared in the midst of all of the scandal.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:25:28 PM)
The cases really vary across all disciplines, industries, cultures, and situations.
DCQ56 (Nov 18, 2002 9:25:31 PM)
How do you see sponsored applicants? Will they get the same help from the career development center as those who are not sponsored? Meaning, during the MBA, they might find that it is not worth it to return to their home company.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:25:41 PM)
We have admissions committee members with expertise in Latin America, Asia and Europe. Yes, they'll look at a GMAT score and will be familiar with testing averages within countries.
brutus (Nov 18, 2002 9:25:41 PM)
?How did the volume of R1 apps this year compare to last year?
Paul_Bodine (Nov 18, 2002 9:25:51 PM)
Do you believe that first-year summer internships will continue to grow in importance as the principal source of the MBAs companies recruit?
bt (Nov 18, 2002 9:26:00 PM)
Dawna: how many readers read our profile? how's the decision processed?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:26:19 PM)
Three characteristics of Darden students? Yikes - there are so many! First... really smart.... Second... Very driven and passionate... Third... Collaborative and community-focused.
Keynes (Nov 18, 2002 9:26:45 PM)
Is there any room to accommodate a candidate that cannot visit C-ville to interview?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:27:17 PM)
The majority of our students are non-sponsored. It's great if your company will sponsor you, but there's usually some type of binding agreement that you'll work for them after the MBA. As long as Darden wouldn't be breaking some type of agreement, I think you'd get the same degree of help as a non-sponsored student.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:27:37 PM)
DCQ56 - we have many members of our class who are sponsored. Acknowledging that times and priorities change, they receive exactly the same attention as those of us who are here on our own.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:28:28 PM)
Sure, starrhill....I assume you are referring to the "cold call" which describes an element of Darden's case method. A cold call is used by professors to ensure that students have prepared their cases thoroughly before class. Essentially, a professor may choose to start class by blindly calling on a student to describe the case in detail and present their analysis. It sounds sort of intimidating at first, but it's actually a pretty good opportunity to show-off :)
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:28:28 PM)
We'll gladly make arrangements for international students who can't visit Darden for an interview. If you live within the US, it's highly recommended and well worth the visit. If you have extenuating circumstances, write to me.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:28:44 PM)
Can we get a recap of any questions that aren't answered yet? I fear we have missed some.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:28:49 PM)
Dawna, Keynes is in a remote area of Alaska.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:29:21 PM)
Alaska! How cool. I think I should go there and do the interview.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:29:24 PM)
Lauren, some questions have asked about the application evaluation process. Can you comment?
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:29:33 PM)
Dawna, if you interview in the summer.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:29:50 PM)
Keynes, call me and we'll make alternative arrangements if we can.
adevera (Nov 18, 2002 9:30:03 PM)
Can you discuss financial aid to international students? Thanks.
brutus (Nov 18, 2002 9:30:06 PM)
?I asked, how did the volume of R1 apps compare to last year??
Keynes (Nov 18, 2002 9:30:08 PM)
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:30:17 PM)
How has the placement office responded to the economic downturn? Are you finding alumni as the most valuable source of job contacts or are you pursuing other novel strategies?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:30:30 PM)
Applications for the first deadline are up by 4.5 % over last year.
bing (Nov 18, 2002 9:31:09 PM)
Almost 20% of the incoming MBAs are from VA. Does that affect the diversity of the program?
bt (Nov 18, 2002 9:31:30 PM)
Is it up because of domestic or international applicants?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:31:34 PM)
The best contact for financial aid questions is Larry Mueller and you can contact him at MuellerL@darden.virginia.edu However, we have quite a bit of financial assistance for both international and domestic students.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:31:44 PM)
As for responses to the downturn, certainly we are turning to alumni for job contacts. Additionally, we are using existing student networks to stimulate interest. Right now, though, we are still in the midst of 2nd year on-grounds recruiting, so we are focusing most energy there right now.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:31:52 PM)
Do you require a co-signer for int'l students?
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:32:20 PM)
What is the role of students in the admissions process?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:32:41 PM)
International applicants don't tend to apply until later deadlines. Most of the increase is in the domestic pool. Last year 42% of our applicant pool was comprised of international students.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:32:49 PM)
starrhill, personally I would say that alumni have been an invaluable resource. One of the best points of Darden is its community of dedicated alumni. The people who graduate from here are incredibly loyal and always willing to help Darden students.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:32:56 PM)
Yes, we require a co-signer.
bt (Nov 18, 2002 9:33:08 PM)
How's application evaluation processed in Darden?
david (Nov 18, 2002 9:33:21 PM)
Where can we find the transcript of this chat?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:33:38 PM)
Because of the heavy demand for on-grounds interviews, we have 45 second year student interviewers.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:33:38 PM)
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:34:07 PM)
Do the students make admit/deny recommendations? Do they have a decision-making role?
ajeph (Nov 18, 2002 9:34:45 PM)
What are the pros and cons of learning via the case method?
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:34:50 PM)
My interview will be at a time when no class visits are available. Could I still have the opportunity to meet with students? It's on 12/17.
Chuck (Nov 18, 2002 9:35:00 PM)
How strong is the entrepreneurship program?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:35:38 PM)
I'm really proud of the application review process in that it's not at all formulaic. We look at factors ranging from the interview, letters of recommendation, essays, work experience, GMAT, GPA, extra-curriculars, etc. Sorry, can't keep up with the questions.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:35:50 PM)
I'll slow down. My apologies.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:36:31 PM)
Dawna, how many people review an application?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:36:46 PM)
Ajeph: Case method is most like real life - businesses situations that you could very well face on day one of your job. Also really engages the collective experience in a classroom - much more interesting than lecture. Learning some of the technical skills is more challenging with case method, but I believe you end up learning it better.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:36:53 PM)
Starrhill, please call Cheryl Jones tomorrow at 434-924-7281. Tell her you're interviewing on 12/17 and tell her I asked for you to meet with some students. As long as they haven't all left for the holiday break, we'd be happy to make those arrangements.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:37:04 PM)
One of my professors gave the best explanations for the merits of the case method: "Tell me, I'll forget; Show me, I may remember; Involve me, I'll understand."
al712 (Nov 18, 2002 9:37:14 PM)
Did prominent high tech companies recruit at Darden this year?
manramu (Nov 18, 2002 9:37:19 PM)
For a Chinese candidate - now a US Permanent Resident who's been working in America for 5 years - will Darden consider them as domestic or international?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:37:20 PM)
At least 2 members of the admissions committee review each application. In some cases more.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:38:12 PM)
The downside of the case method is that it is much more challenging than simply doing problems sets. It can at times be very frustrating as well.
david (Nov 18, 2002 9:38:14 PM)
Do second year MBA students take part in the interview? I will have an interview in three days.
adevera (Nov 18, 2002 9:38:21 PM)
The required essays in the application have no word limit. How long would the Adcom prefer them to be?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:38:41 PM)
Officially, US Perm residents are counted as "international students." However, the fact that you lived in China for a long time and bring a true international perspective would definitely be taken into consideration.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:39:05 PM)
Mike, how is it frustrating?
bt (Nov 18, 2002 9:39:45 PM)
Some of the applicants got their decision last Sunday. When will the next decision batch come out? Every Sunday?
Chuck (Nov 18, 2002 9:39:50 PM)
Can you please shed some light on the possibility of taking public policy classes while pursuing MBA?
Tiger31 (Nov 18, 2002 9:39:56 PM)
When can 1st round applicants expect to hear about acceptance/rejection?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:39:57 PM)
Hi, David. There are 7 members of the admissions committee and 45 second year student interviewers so there's a good chance you'd interview with a student. The student interviewer feedback carries just as much "weight" as the professional staff members.
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:40:34 PM)
If you were to apply in round 1 versus round 3, would you have an easier chance of getting financial aid/scholarships?
david (Nov 18, 2002 9:40:37 PM)
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:40:40 PM)
Hi BT, It will be pretty continuous from now until the end of the season.
david (Nov 18, 2002 9:41:14 PM)
Are there other opportunities to be shown around the campus besides interview and class visit?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:41:30 PM)
I don't think there would be a difference in chances of getting financial aid in round 1 versus round 3. I definitely wouldn't wait to the last deadline.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:41:55 PM)
I guess I should have expanded....The case method is premised on learning through "doing." This is often a less direct method than having the professor simply provide an answer. While this can be frustrating at times, it places the learning into a more applicable context.
al712 (Nov 18, 2002 9:41:58 PM)
On your campus visit, can you select a class of your choice?
DCQ56 (Nov 18, 2002 9:42:17 PM)
I have a specific question about the status update on Darden web site. In order to be accepted, must the applicant status change from completed to pending, or can it change directly from completed to accepted?
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:42:57 PM)
Mike and Lauren, what do you like best at Darden? What would you like to see improved?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:43:06 PM)
Because we have up to 45 visitors each day and only so much space per class, we're not able to offer the option of choosing a specific class. All of the classes applicants sit in on though are the first year required classes. Applicants tend to really love the experience.
Keynes (Nov 18, 2002 9:43:45 PM)
I took my GMAT in 2000 and had scores sent to Darden, but never applied to any b-schools that year. Do I need to have them resent for this year's application process?
Geovac (Nov 18, 2002 9:43:49 PM)
Dawna: Can you comment on the size of the waitlist last year? How many were ultimately accepted, and what was the last date of notification?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:44:06 PM)
The status should change from compete to pending to accepted. We have sooooo many still to review and complete so don't worry if you haven't seen a status change yet.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:44:22 PM)
Love the people - no question. The integrated nature of the curriculum is fantastic, too. You're learning about forecasting in accounting, finance, and operations at the same time, which really reinforces concepts. The faculty is also amazing.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:44:59 PM)
Hi Keynes, we should have them on file, but call tomorrow to check 1-8--UVA-MBA-1. Ask for the "account manager" who handles the first letter of your last name.
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:45:15 PM)
Do the professors have a lot of cross-departmental communication so that one class's lessons feeds off another?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:45:15 PM)
In terms of improvement, I would like to see Darden improve its focus on international marketing and brand positioning. This is one of the Administration's big priorities right now, so we should see improvement immediately.
david (Nov 18, 2002 9:45:27 PM)
Dawna, 2002 is the first year for Darden to expand. How do you evaluate the effort? So far so good?
blueman (Nov 18, 2002 9:45:30 PM)
Dawna, you said Darden requires co-signer for int'l/ students. But GATE loan does not seem to have this requirement. Is that true?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:45:50 PM)
Starrhill - absolutely! They all know everything that is going on in every class.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:46:28 PM)
I'm thrilled about the expansion. The good news for applicants is that we're not accepting significantly more applicants than we used to. In the long run, we'll have more Darden alumni which will be good for the school.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:46:33 PM)
Lauren, are they actually coordinating the curriculum between finance, marketing, and operations research?
manramu (Nov 18, 2002 9:47:09 PM)
Any opinion on sending in three letters of recommendation vs. the required two?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:47:15 PM)
Blueman, I'm pretty sure the GATE loan requires a co-signer now, but I can double check on that for you.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:47:20 PM)
Sorry, Linda... I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking if there is coordination among research to drive the curriculum?
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:47:38 PM)
Lauren, I mean when you talk about cross-functional communication, do you mean that the marketing professor talks to the accounting professor so that the cases are related or are you working on one case that is referenced in multiple classes?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:47:53)
But what was the question about research?
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:48:12 PM)
Unquestionably the culture is the best part of Darden. This is simply a special place. I think it took me about a week to build up a life time of loyalty to this place. I completely agree with Lauren about the faculty. I came to business school from a non-traditional background and therefore struggled at times to keep my head above water. However, the professors always had an open door and were willing to help to no end. I am sometimes amazed at how dedicated the faculty are here. Last quarter, before our exam in Valuation class, our Professor was out of the country for a conference. The day he got back he came straight from the airport and did FOUR review sessions for students. It was amazing.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:48:13 PM)
Manramu, if the 3rd recommendation offers a different perspective than the first two, it would be fine. I wouldn't send a 3rd if it basically covers the same things as the required two.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:48:32 PM)
I was just using operations research as another possible class.
david (Nov 18, 2002 9:48:53 PM)
Dawna, thanks for your answer.
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 9:48:55 PM)
Could someone elaborate on the Batten Institute and its function at Darden?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:49:04 PM)
Actually, both things sometimes happen. But the first year curriculum is entirely engineered by a team of faculty to ensure that all classes intersect.
jun (Nov 18, 2002 9:49:08 PM)
Some people got an e-mail to inform them about the status change, but I haven't got one. (I'm worried that I will miss the decision e-mail : )
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:49:25 PM)
Lauren is a Batten fellow. I'll let her answer that one.
KedarG (Nov 18, 2002 9:49:49 PM)
Any opinion on having a Darden alum write a recommendation?
al712 (Nov 18, 2002 9:49:56 PM)
What should candidates in the above avg. age bracket focus on in their essays?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:50:46 PM)
The Batten Institute serves a number of purposes. As you probably know, it is an incredibly well-funded entity focused on entrepreneurship. The "products" are largely research, cases, seminars, faculty, and other innovation-focused programs.
david (Nov 18, 2002 9:50:50 PM)
Lauren, do you have the statistics about how many people ended up in the second or third tier of the waiting list?
mengdan (Nov 18, 2002 9:50:57 PM)
Dawna: What's your comment about that article by Stanford Prof. Jeffrey Pfeffer? How do you evaluate Darden's ROI?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:51:09 PM)
Hi Jun, Applications are still being processed since we got about 460 of them. If you want to make sure your application is complete, you can call us tomorrow. No problem. Only a certain number of applications go for an evaluation (to pending) each week, so the majority of the 460 haven't had a status change yet.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:51:10 PM)
I think that Lauren or Mike can also address Mengdan's question.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:51:29 PM)
Hi David, the number of applicants on the first or second tier can vary from year to year. Because our "yield" was so high last year, we didn't have a chance to offer admission to many waitlisted candidates.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:51:48 PM)
Right now the Batten Institute has brought in a Washington Venture Capitalist to come teach some classes, help right cases, etc. Additionally, they are working on an educational series to be delivered in Northern Virginia and are also providing interesting entrepreneurial cases. Lots of activity!
adc2cg (Nov 18, 2002 9:53:06 PM)
In general, are candidates evaluated against the applicant pool at large or against specific demographics? As an example, if you come from consulting, will you be compared against those with a similar background (taking into account other things such as national origin or race and such)?
Geovac (Nov 18, 2002 9:53:16 PM)
Lauren: You mentioned that all of the professors know everything that is going on in every class. How do you think they do it? Are there regular daily / weekly coordination meetings among the faculty of all the first year students? Btw, how many professors are there for the first year students this year?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:54:03 PM)
Generally speaking, applicants are evaluated against the applicant pool at large.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:54:08 PM)
Mengdan, Pfeffer's article was interesting, but I can't say that it changed my thoughts on being at Darden. I think that you have to make a personal decision about whether or not business school is the right decision for you. It cannot be entirely based upon an economic equation - or at least I don't believe it should be. You have to come up with your own value equation to see if Darden is right for you. For me, I wanted to build a foundation of skills and create a rich network of colleagues. Based on those criteria, my ROI is phenomenal thus far!
DCQ56 (Nov 18, 2002 9:54:12 PM)
Have you seen any rise on the number applicants from Latin American countries this year, such as Brazil?
Campanario (Nov 18, 2002 9:54:56 PM)
In general, after a pending status, how many weeks are necessary to receive a final decision?
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:54:57 PM)
Mengdan- First, I have read his article but am not intimately familiar with it. I personally disagree with his argument on its merits. Darden -- and business school in general -- isn't a decision that I would or could apply a formula to. Darden has provided me with new business skills and an incredible experience. I have no doubt that my time here will help me have a rewarding career. However, that really wasn't the point for going to business school. It really wasn't about the $$$$ in and of itself. It was more about the career possibilities that Darden would open for me.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:55:05 PM)
Too early to say since international applicants tend not to apply during the first deadline. I haven't seen an increase yet.
adevera (Nov 18, 2002 9:55:16 PM)
Whom should I speak to regarding an interview in Toronto, Canada?
Geovac (Nov 18, 2002 9:55:32 PM)
Dawna: Is being an older student and having over 10 years of experience an advantage or disadvantage for the case study environment?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:56:05 PM)
Geovac, there is a First Year Committee that designs the curriculum before school starts. As things change during the year, things are amended, but there is an oversight committee that ensures cohesiveness throughout the program. Additionally, there are periodic (don't know how often) faculty and department meetings to keep up to date.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:56:10 PM)
I believe I read that GMAT testing in Brazil is down this year from last year.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:56:33 PM)
International applicants are reviewed first. If an interview is necessary, the admissions committee would contact you to arrange an alumni interview in Toronto. Because of volume, we can't make arrangements for every applicant until the file is reviewed.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:56:42 PM)
Not to step on Dawna, Geovac, but experience is to your benefit. There is no such thing as too much experience.
manramu (Nov 18, 2002 9:56:50 PM)
For International students - How do you convert their GPAs?
adevera (Nov 18, 2002 9:56:52 PM)
What % of the spaces is Adcom looking to fill from Nov & Dec application submissions?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:56:53 PM)
I think that's correct, Linda.
bing (Nov 18, 2002 9:57:37 PM)
Are there many military people?
Madhu (Nov 18, 2002 9:57:57 PM)
For an international student, how many years of work ex and GMAT are competitive?
david (Nov 18, 2002 9:58:00 PM)
Where does Darden see itself in five to ten years? higher ranking or something?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:58:21 PM)
We have adcom members with expertise in Latin America, Europe and Asia. We are very familiar with lots of international schools. We don't necessarily attempt to convert them to the US system, but to look at the performance from the perspective of the international program itself.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:58:53 PM)
I don't know about numbers of military folks, but we have an active Military Association at Darden and probably 4 to 6 people per first year section with some sort of military experience.
adc2cg (Nov 18, 2002 9:59:06 PM)
You mentioned a high yield at Darden last year. One phenomenon I don't understand is how so many good schools end us with such a high yield. You'd think you were all accepting the same students. Is this achieved through "fit" by looking at essays and resumes?
Campanario (Nov 18, 2002 9:59:10 PM)
After pending, how many weeks to the final decision?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 9:59:36 PM)
Darden tends to attract candidates with a military background in part due to our proximity to DC and military bases in Virginia. The general management exposure fits well with military candidates. They also tend to do well in the program due to team and leadership training.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 9:59:50 PM)
Since IB and mgmt consulting recruiting are down, are you less interested with applicants with those stated goals and interests?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:01:17 PM)
We're still interested in investment bankers and consulting. By the time they graduate the economy will hopefully be significantly stronger and hiring will increase again.
Madhu (Nov 18, 2002 10:01:52 PM)
Is it considered negative if you are stating your long term goals as working for non profit organizations?
al712 (Nov 18, 2002 10:01:54 PM)
What is the Darden alum strength on the West Coast?
david (Nov 18, 2002 10:02:04 PM)
CDC office at Darden was ranked one of the best. What's the secret weapon?
Madhu (Nov 18, 2002 10:02:36 PM)
What's Darden's appetite for admitting applicants from IT background with 3-4 years of work ex?
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:02:39 PM)
I think the CDC's secret weapon is its individual attention. At Darden you are never a number and therefore the CDC is willing and able to help each individual student.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:02:50 PM)
We'll keep going.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:03:13 PM)
We wouldn't consider an interest in non-profit to be a negative.
Edmund (Nov 18, 2002 10:03:22 PM)
How would Darden improve her brand name internationally? Despite the rankings by diff. presses, Darden is probably not as well known as Berkeley, UCLA, Michigan.
wabadam (Nov 18, 2002 10:03:27 PM)
Are you anticipating that the number of applications will be up or down this year? How do the year-over-year numbers compare for applications received by the first deadline?
bing (Nov 18, 2002 10:04:35 PM)
starrhill (Nov 18, 2002 10:04:42 PM)
Are there any future initiatives to upgrade Darden's technology capabilities (e.g., wireless lan network)?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:05:19 PM)
Edmund, this is a huge priority at Darden right now. So much of the emphasis has been on continuously improving the curriculum , faculty, etc. The dean has traveled extensively within the past year visiting companies, alumni, doing press interviews, etc. I think we'll see significant initiatives in this arena in the coming months.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:05:55 PM)
Darden's tech capabilities are incredible. Not having wireless is really not an issue. With the exception of the bathrooms, every corner of the school has internet access.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:05:57 PM)
I'm anticipating that applications will be up slightly over last year. So far, they're up by 4.5% over last year.
mex10 (Nov 18, 2002 10:06:24 PM)
I understand that the interviews play an important role. I'm from Mexico and currently unavailable to go to campus. Are there other options? Phone, alumni interviews?
Madhu (Nov 18, 2002 10:06:28 PM)
For internationals, how bad is not meeting the first deadline?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:06:40 PM)
Mike, where've you been? There are too internet connections in the bathrooms!
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:06:48 PM)
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:07:45 PM)
What is a common mistake applicants make in their applications?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:07:50 PM)
Yes, we'll arrange alumni interviews overseas, but first the application has to be reviewed by the admissions committee. Also, I should be in Mexico in January and I'd be happy to meet with you.
adevera (Nov 18, 2002 10:08:15 PM)
Mike & Lauren: Can you discuss the global business experience?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:08:24 PM)
It's ok if you missed the first deadline. Very few international students meet the first deadline.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:08:47 PM)
The most common mistake applicants make: First, just be yourself in the application process. Applicants (sometimes) say what they think we want to hear. I know that sounds like common sense. Also, in essays and interviews, don't make broad sweeping statements like "I have strong leadership skills". Instead give an anecdote or vignette to bring your statement to life. Come for an interview. It provides another vehicle to convey all of your accomplishments and special qualities. Interviews tend to help more than they hurt candidates.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:09:02 PM)
Sure thing - I went to Slovenia last year. Was a great experience going into the former Yugoslavia. We met with lots of amazing businesses and learned a tremendous amount in a very short time. What a beautiful area of the world! I'm not going on one this year, but lots of friends are going to China, Stockholm, Barcelona, Mexico City, and Prague.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:09:16 PM)
Lauren, what did you do in Slovenia?
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:10:09 PM)
We went to visit a number of companies (the largest bank in Slovenia, a shipbuilding firm, etc) and did some in-class work at the business school in Bled.
jun (Nov 18, 2002 10:11:27 PM)
Since you mention only a few international applicants apply for round 1, how can you compare them with other int'l applicants who will apply during a later round? Or is that why they got waitlisted? It seems like there's no advantage for int'l candidates to apply early.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:11:43 PM)
Dawna, common sense is frequently uncommon.
Madhu (Nov 18, 2002 10:12:57 PM)
Is it true that the competition is getting severe in this economy when people are losing jobs and going back to schools? Has Darden seen the applicant profile going up?
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:13:09 PM)
Last questions anyone?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:13:10 PM)
There are lots of advantages to applying early but international students tend to apply in the 2nd - 5th rounds because there are more requirements for international students (such as the TOEFL exam).
al712 (Nov 18, 2002 10:14:00 PM)
Lauren - Is there a way to visit and meet people @ the Batten Institute during the campus visit?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:14:03 PM)
We've seen steady growth in the applicant pool over the past three years. However, we've also increased the entering class size, which is great news for our applicants.
sweetness (Nov 18, 2002 10:14:04 PM)
If I got rejected last year and didn't even make the wait list, do I have a realistic shot at admission this year?
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:14:53 PM)
I'd recommend getting feedback on last year's application so you can find out strategies to make improvements (take classes, retake the GMAT, come for an interview, etc.).
Edmund (Nov 18, 2002 10:15:09 PM)
Is an international student who went to college in the US required to have TOEFL?
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:15:21 PM)
Thank you again all for participating this evening. Special thanks to Dawna, Lauren, and Mike for joining us this evening and to Paul Bodine for his assistance.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:15:32 PM)
We look forward to seeing you at future chats. Here is a list of currently scheduled chats:
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:15:32 PM)
I assume you could set up a chat with the folks at the Batten Institute. The team there is more than willing to chat with students (and future students). I would talk to Cheryl Jones when you set up your interview.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:15:45 PM)
Nov. 25 - UT; Dec. 3 - NYU; Dec. 16 -- Indiana.
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:15:46 PM)
Thanks Linda and to all the participants. This was a lot of fun.
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:15:49 PM)
If anyone has further questions, feel free to contact me directly at TerwilligerM03@darden.virginia.edu
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:08 PM)
Please check http://www.accepted.com/chat/schedule.htm#mba for exact times and details.
DCQ56 (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:18 PM)
Thank you all!
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:20 PM)
Me too. ClarkeD@darden.virginia.edu
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:21 PM)
Have a very good evening! Good luck with your applications!
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:30 PM)
Good luck everyone.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:34 PM)
Thank you, Dawna. I know you're not feeling well.
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:36 PM)
Me, too... email@example.com
LaurenMacleodDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:44 PM)
Good luck everyone!!
Edmund (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:45 PM)
ajeph (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:48 PM)
mengdan (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:50 PM)
Thank you all.
Linda Abraham (Nov 18, 2002 10:16:57 PM)
MikeTerwilligerDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:17:01 PM)
Its a long process, but its totally worth it in the end...
DawnaClarkeDarden (Nov 18, 2002 10:17:07 PM)
You're very welcome. Hope to see you at Darden.
Keynes (Nov 18, 2002 10:18:05 PM)
Thanks Dawna, Mike, Lauren and Linda!