2006 Michigan Ross Waitlist Admissions Chat with Jim Hayes


2006 Michigan Ross Waitlist Admissions Chat with Jim Hayes

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Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 9:56:09 AM)
First I want to welcome you all to Accepted.com's Michigan Ross waitlist chat.

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 9:56:28 AM)
I also want to welcome Jim Hayes, Director of Admissions and Soojin Kwon Koh, Senior Associate Director of Admissions.

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 9:56:39 AM)
Jim will join us shortly.

smr (Mar 23, 2006 9:57:25 AM)
How many applicants are waitlisted this year so far? How many do you anticipate will be on your waitlist in all - even after the 3rd round? How many of these do you expect to admit and earliest/latest by what time?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 9:58:15 AM)
The numbers are fluid at this point. We won't begin reviewing the waitlist until mid-May. We don't have any way of telling how many we'll admit off the waitlist; it depends on how many of the admitted students accept their offer. We will not begin reviewing any waitlist applications until mid-May. We are still in the process of reviewing Round 3 applications.

Liz Caldas (Mar 23, 2006 9:58:26 AM)
Thank you for offering this chat forum to all of us. Yesterday I sent a letter to Ross admissions to make them aware of a new development on my professional front. Appreciating that the Ross admissions team is rather busy at this phase, how soon can I assume that my addendum will be considered with my overall application?

subraan (Mar 23, 2006 9:59:06 AM)
What is the basis for waitlisting an applicant?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 9:59:33 AM)
The entire application is considered in our decision so there is no "one" thing that puts a person on the waitlist.

Liz Caldas (Mar 23, 2006 9:59:48 AM)
Although I understand that admission decisions for waitlist applicants are done throughout the admissions cycle, with a majority being notified in May and June, is there any possibility that your team may also be making some decisions by late March? If I get accepted to the other schools I have applied to, of which I expect to hear from in late March, do you advise I let your team at Ross know right away? I would be hard-pressed to make a decision on my other schools if I knew that I may still have an opportunity at Ross.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:00:36 AM)
No, waitlist applications will be reviewed until mid-May. You should make your decision based on the possibility that you may not receive an offer of admission.

IceMountain (Mar 23, 2006 10:00:37 AM)
What is the criteria for selecting people from waitlist?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:01:13 AM)
There is no set criteria. Waitlisted applications are re-reviewed during the timeframe I mentioned.

rakesh kant (Mar 23, 2006 10:01:14 AM)
What can a waitlisted candidate do in the meantime to increase his/her chances to get accepted?

GuoChong (Mar 23, 2006 10:01:34 AM)
How does the selection process work? Is it rolling or staged process?

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 10:02:29 AM)
Ross provides quite a few suggestions on what you can do on its waitlist FAQ page.   

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:03:31 AM)
Yes, the selection process is rolling. We're aiming to have waitlist decisions completed by the end of June.

Rossapplicant (Mar 23, 2006 10:03:32 AM)
Who writes the most effective letters of support for waitlisted applicants?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:04:01 AM)
We do not require letters of support for the waitlist.

smr (Mar 23, 2006 10:04:06 AM)
Can I contact the adcom over the phone to discuss possible shortcomings/deficiencies in my application and what I can do to resolve them? Would visiting the adcom at Ross help even though I have previously visited Ross and met an adcom member?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:04:57 AM)
No, I wouldn't advise calling the admissions committee. We do not provide individual feedback to waitlisted candidates. A visit would not enhance your chances either.

Sri (Mar 23, 2006 10:04:59 AM)
If you are applying to a joint program and have been admitted to the other school is that relevant to the adcom?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:05:12 AM)
No, our decisions are made independently of each other.

Loed (Mar 23, 2006 10:05:13 AM)
Has there been an increase in the number of applications received this year? How might this affect the waitlist status?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:05:31 AM)
Yes, there has been an increase. We don't know yet how this will affect the waitlist statues as it depends on how many admits decide to enroll.

Shana Levy (Mar 23, 2006 10:05:44 AM)
I will be visiting Ross on Monday to meet some current students and attend several classes. Is there anyone that I can speak to in admissions while I am there?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:06:15 AM)
You can certainly stop by but that won't improve your chances for admission. Keep in mind my earlier comment that we don't provide feedback for waitlisted candidates.

smr (Mar 23, 2006 10:06:33 AM)
I had faxed the letter accepting to be waitlisted last week on Thursday - yet I have not received any confirmation till now. Will you send a confirmation and by what time?

jjims (Mar 23, 2006 10:06:50 AM)
Do you rank waitlisted applicants?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:07:14 AM)
SMR - per our website, it may take 7 - 10 business days before you receive confirmation of our receipt of your decision to stay on the waitlist.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:07:22 AM)
No, we don't rank waitlist candidates.

SL (Mar 23, 2006 10:07:39 AM)
I still have not been interviewed. Can I ask for an interview?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:07:56 AM)
No, if you didn't interview prior to the deadline, it's too late for waitlist applicants.

Anamaria Sarbu (Mar 23, 2006 10:08:02 AM)
What is the difference between an accepted application and one being on the waitlist?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:08:32 AM)
Are you talking about an "admitted applicant" vs. a "waitlisted applicant?"

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 10:08:39 AM)
Yes.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:09:10 AM)
An admitted applicant is someone who has been offered admission to our program. Someone on the waitlist is still waiting for us to make a final decision.

cherylw (Mar 23, 2006 10:09:25 AM)
I saw the transcript from a previous waitlist chat session and it indicated that the total number of applicants on the waitlist is typically 300, of which about 100 are accepted. Do you expect those numbers to be approximately the same this semester?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:09:39 AM)
Probably fairly close.

Samir (Mar 23, 2006 10:09:43 AM)
Is there a latest date by which you will inform international applicants. I'm sure several have visa considerations to factor into the mix, and might need sufficient advance notice to facilitate the visa process. When is the earliest/ latest you will notify international applicants?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:10:20 AM)
Yes, we are shooting to have the international waitlist decisions finalized by late May/early June, so visas may be processed in time.

Rushikesh (Mar 23, 2006 10:10:29 AM)
Is there any format in which a waitlisted applicant is expected to send additional information about the updates to his/her profile? If sent as another essay is there a word limit to such an essay?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:11:03 AM)
There is no required format. We don't have a word limit per se, but I'd use good judgment about the length.

amy_c (Mar 23, 2006 10:11:05 AM)
If waitlisted candidates get admitted, will they still be considered for scholarship?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:11:10 AM)
No.

Cyprus (Mar 23, 2006 10:11:20 AM)
Can diversity be one of the reasons for putting an applicant on the waitlist?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:11:24 AM)
No.

Dave Ward (Mar 23, 2006 10:11:46 AM)
Is it worth retaking the GMAT in the interim in order to improve chances of getting accepted off the waitlist?

Rossapplicant (Mar 23, 2006 10:11:52 AM)
I would like to send supplementary essays to admissions committee. Do you think what the most important supplementary essays I should emphasize are?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:12:24 AM)
If you think that was the reason you may have been waitlisted, then yes, by all means retake it and let us know your new score as soon as possible. Keep in mind that that may not have been the reason for your waitlist status, though.

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 10:12:31 AM)
I am going to take Rossapplicant's question. Soojin, please correct me if I'm wrong. The supplementary essays should address any weaknesses, and significant developments since you applied, and fit with the program.

smr (Mar 23, 2006 10:12:42 AM)
I have an acceptance from an accelerated MBA program at another school for which I am supposed to have an initial deposit by mid-April, pay full tuition by early May and start classes by end of May. How can I convince the Ross adcom to make a decision at the earliest - possibly by end of April?

Guest (Mar 23, 2006 10:12:50 AM)
To enhance the application, will an additional recommendation letter help?

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 10:13:05 AM)
Guest, that depends on the content of the letter. Quality not quantity counts.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:13:20 AM)
We will not be making any waitlist decisions prior to May.

Junaidi (Mar 23, 2006 10:13:29 AM)
Do you think being admitted by other top schools will increase my chances of being admitted to Ross?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:13:56 AM)
No, our decision is made independently of other schools' decisions.

Ishi (Mar 23, 2006 10:14:04 AM)
Since your evaluation period seems to be from mid May-end of June, can I safely say that all updates must reach your office before May 15th?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:14:48 AM)
That's a good idea.

GoBlueMBA (Mar 23, 2006 10:15:15 AM)
Thank you for providing this opportunity for all of us to get some live feedback. I am a Round 2 waitlist and do not feel that I have any “significant achievements” to report since my application. However, I do want to express my continued desire to attend Ross and my reasoning as to how I would contribute to the overall diversity of the class profile. Is it appropriate for me to communicate this with the Associate Director without having anything “new” to add about myself?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:16:46 AM)
That's a tough question. While we do appreciate the interest, there's a fine line between expressing interest, and over-doing the contact. You should use your judgment. keep in mind that every communication you make, even an email, is a reflection of you. So the quantity and quality of your notes/letters/etc. will weigh into our decision.

adseligman (Mar 23, 2006 10:16:49 AM)
I am interested in how financial aid will play out. I qualify for need-based financial aid, however I understand there is only a limited amount of need based aid (available on a first-come first-server basis.) Do students, who are admitted from the waitlist, have any chance of scholarship or need-based financial aid?

fighter06 (Mar 23, 2006 10:17:24 AM)
Assuming that the waitlist would have people ranked in an order, could the adcom let candidates know of their relative positioning on the waitlist?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:17:30 AM)
There are no scholarships for waitlisted applicants. You're also right about the limited availability of need-based aid for students getting off the waitlist. It really depends on how much of it has been tapped into by admitted students.

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 10:17:30 AM)
The list is not ranked.

abhathakur (Mar 23, 2006 10:17:40 AM)
Historically what percentage of waitlisted applicants have made it to the final list?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:17:48 AM)
It varies from year to year.

NGOGUY (Mar 23, 2006 10:18:12 AM)
Do waitlisted candidates typically fill "voids" of the entering class' demographics?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:18:43 AM)
No, we admit people off the waitlist based on the quality/competitiveness of their application, not to fulfill demographic goals.

MBA08 (Mar 23, 2006 10:18:57 AM)
If a waitlist candidate gets accepted then does (s)he get financial aid?

Ishi (Mar 23, 2006 10:19:25 AM)
If you don't rank waitlisted candidates, then how do you handle the files- first come first serve- alphabetically?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:19:26 AM)
Admitted students can apply for financial aid. Most take advantage of loans.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:19:50 AM)
We review the files all at the same time and discuss them among the committee.

mib_india (Mar 23, 2006 10:20:01 AM)
After being admitted into the program, are "accepted" and "waitlisted" candidates differentiated. I mean, is it made public?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:20:14 AM)
Only if you choose to make it public.

fm (Mar 23, 2006 10:20:21 AM)
Do students who attended UM for undergrad have a disadvantage to being accepted for the MBA program?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:20:34 AM)
They don't have an advantage or disadvantage.

Steve (Mar 23, 2006 10:20:35 AM)
What advice would you offer to waitlisted applicants?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:20:42 AM)
Be patient.

konam (Mar 23, 2006 10:20:46 AM)
Is the wait listing process the same for CGSM applicants, or like the admissions process, on a different timeline?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:21:21 AM)
Same for CGSM.

rick2 (Mar 23, 2006 10:21:25 AM)
Are there any insights you can share that aren't available on your website?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:22:34 AM)
The one comment that isn't made on the website that I've made here is - use your judgment. Take some time to review your application and figure out what might've been the factor(s) that held you back and decide whether there's something you can do about it.

Nova (Mar 23, 2006 10:22:46 AM)
What are the typical improvements a waitlisted applicant can make?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:23:32 AM)
Improvements in test scores, significant achievements at work, etc.

asharma (Mar 23, 2006 10:23:40 AM)
Thanks for arranging the chat forum. I wonder how would a recommendation be submitted. Is it by mail/online?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:24:48 AM)
Either is fine. Again, use your judgment. ONLY provide materials that you think will address the thing(s) you think might've been the shortcoming. Providing new materials and notes for the sake of providing materials and notes will not strengthen your application.

Anamaria Sarbu (Mar 23, 2006 10:24:54 AM)
If waitlisted candidates get admitted, will they still be considered for loans ( Citibank loans)?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:24:59 AM)
Yes.

eva (Mar 23, 2006 10:25:14 AM)
If you know that you're area of weakness is with your GMAT score and plan to retake the test, would you recommend that we let the adcom know so they do not make a final decision before?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:25:38 AM)
Let us know your new score as soon as you get it. Just telling us you'll be retaking a test won't improve your chances of being admitted since many people don't end up retaking it and/or they don't score any higher.

vikrammankar (Mar 23, 2006 10:26:19 AM)
Will a job change at this stage (but in the same field/advancement) have a negative effect on the waitlist status?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:26:36 AM)
No, a job change won't make a difference.

UM_mba08 (Mar 23, 2006 10:26:43 AM)
If you accept an applicant from the waitlist, is it possible to defer admission until next year?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:26:50 AM)
No.

Junaidi (Mar 23, 2006 10:26:54 AM)
Isn't it a little bit late (for visa application) for an Indonesian like me? I don't think I can get my visa by 3 months, so should I consider myself being rejected already?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:27:14 AM)
In our experience, notifying international waitlist applicants by early June has been sufficient.

cherylw (Mar 23, 2006 10:27:19 AM)
Sorry - I'm sure this is somewhere obvious, but I can't seem to find it - where do we send our application updates to?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:27:55 AM)
You can send it to the Admissions Associate Director who signed your decision letter (online) or to Rossmba@umich.edu.

David S (Mar 23, 2006 10:27:57 AM)
If an applicant is rejected, after he was on the waitlist, will you provide feedback on the candidate's application?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:28:02 AM)
No.

karthik (Mar 23, 2006 10:28:27 AM)
By the way, thanks for hosting this chat. It provides us international applicants, who are unable to visit the school, a glimpse of the collaborative Michigan culture.

adm01 (Mar 23, 2006 10:28:31 AM)
Can you provide some example of what in past has impressed the adcom to admit a waitlisted candidate?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:29:17 AM)
It's hard to say; it varies from person to person.

rakesh kant (Mar 23, 2006 10:29:19 AM)
Just referring back to your previous answer about when and how much to contact, is no contact considered as sign of not enough interest?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:29:46 AM)
By virtue or your faxing in your decision to stay on the waitlist, we know that you're interested.

dave (Mar 23, 2006 10:29:54 AM)
You mentioned earlier that decisions for international applicants will be made by the end of May. When should US applicants expect to hear from the adcom?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:30:14 AM)
Although we are not in a position to offer feedback to waitlisted applicants, those who do a thorough analysis of what the issues may be and then respond accordingly (e.g., retake the GMAT, redo an essay or two, etc.) are most successful in gaining admission from the waitlist.

Guest (Mar 23, 2006 10:30:22 AM)
Will a Round 2 waitlist applicant be compared to Round 3 applicants to be selected or be picked up after Round 3 offers are made?

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 10:30:29 AM)
Welcome Jim!! You made it!

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:30:45 AM)
We shoot to notify US applicants for end of June but some decisions go into the late summer, if people are willing to hang on to the bitter end.

MichiganMBA1 (Mar 23, 2006 10:30:58 AM)
Jim, as stated in the e-mail you sent, the topics for discussion were to include "do’s and don’ts while on the waitlist, and the things you should be doing to improve your chances of admission from the waitlist." Can you please elaborate on the things that we should be doing to improve our chances.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:31:07 AM)
Decisions for domestic applicants will be substantially completed by the end of June. We will begin in early May.

vikrammankar (Mar 23, 2006 10:31:26 AM)
Soojin: What about applicants to the TMI program? Is being on the waitlist a disadvantage or a possible indication that I might not get into the TMI program?

Ming (Mar 23, 2006 10:31:39 AM)
Jim: Would the recommendation letters from Current Ross MBA students help?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:31:40 AM)
No.

Ishi (Mar 23, 2006 10:31:55 AM)
Soojin: I understand that the admissions committee is busy and prefers waitlisted students to not become a bother. What other things do you expect waitlisted students to not do?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:33:02 AM)
Yes. Try to assess areas of your application that could be improved, and then begin to address them. For example, if you conclude that your GMAT score is much lower than our average, then we may be waiting to see if you retake the exam. Another area to check out might be the extent to which you have made your interest in Ross clear. You may want to redo that essay. What you should not do is simply "wait"!

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:33:03 AM)
Ishi: Some waitlisted candidates think a personal visit to Ross will clinch it for them. There's not a need to visit.

MichiganMBA1 (Mar 23, 2006 10:33:04 AM)
You said that all applications would be evaluated at once in mid-May. Can you please elaborate on the approach that you use to do this for 300 applications? Would the applicants be ranked at that time?

gomichigan (Mar 23, 2006 10:33:11 AM)
Soojin: Initially I was granted a waiver for the TOEFL. But now I have taken it. Is it a good idea reporting it to adcom?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:34:29 AM)
Gomichigan: If you were waived from TOEFL, then we don't need your TOEFL score as we assumed your English skills were sufficient.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:34:33 AM)
We do not rank the wait list. Each of our adcom members will be asked to advocate for those they think should be admitted. We will begin to make calls based upon how responsive each of the waitlisted applicants has been.

Anamaria Sarbu (Mar 23, 2006 10:34:35 AM)
Jim: What would you do in terms of improving your application if you were a waitlisted candidate?

smr1 (Mar 23, 2006 10:34:46 AM)
Soojin: Will you put some candidates who applied in Round 3 on the waitlist too?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:34:58 AM)
smr1: it's possible.

Liz Caldas (Mar 23, 2006 10:35:08 AM)
Soojin: Now that I am on the Ross waitlist, does this mean that I am still being considered for the Consortium for Graduate Study in Management fellowship?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:35:39 AM)
liz: No, CGSM fellowship decisions have already been made.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:35:48 AM)
smrl: That would depend on many individual issues. Could be that my essays were not strong enough, or that I was not able to schedule an interview by the deadline. This will vary from one person to the next.

Mike Campbell (Mar 23, 2006 10:35:59 AM)
Soojin: Can an increased essay score on the GMAT enhance an application to the point of acceptance?

Yoon_Shin (Mar 23, 2006 10:36:06 AM)
Jim: I think my weakness is that I was not able to interview. How can I improve this point?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:36:36 AM)
Mike: Yes, if a low GMAT score was the issue. If it wasn't the issue, even getting a perfect score on the GMAT won't get you in.

Ming (Mar 23, 2006 10:36:41 AM)
Soojin: You're reviewing the "updates" together with the original application package, right?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:36:50 AM)
Yes.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:36:55 AM)
Yoon, contact us to get the interview scheduled. We are busy, but your expression of interest in getting the interview done would work to your advantage. So try.

mib_india (Mar 23, 2006 10:37:23 AM)
Soojin: My score on the TOEFL was about average. Does it improve my chances if I take another shot at it and get a "perfect" score? To put it other ways, how important is the TOEFL for international candidates?

Sri (Mar 23, 2006 10:37:34 AM)
Jim: A 4.0 and 800 is not a guarantee of admissions, so aside from GPA and GMAT, what specific professional and community accomplishments would you look for?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:38:01 AM)
mib: It depends on if that was the issue. If your TOEFL score wasn't the issue, then a perfect score won't help.

Loed (Mar 23, 2006 10:38:08 AM)
Soojin: What, in your opinion, might be a good way to offset a poor GPA? If I have a strong quant GMAT would you say there is nothing else I could do to improve my application?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:38:31 AM)
Nothing in particular. Whatever interests you in terms of professional and career activities is what is key. What we look for is commitment to having an impact on an organization or group of people.

Jason Banks (Mar 23, 2006 10:38:35 AM)
Jim: Should additional recommendations follow the application format or can they be free form, specifically if they address new professional developments

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:39:16 AM)
Either format is fine for additional recommendations. The key is that they should be substantive and provide examples of cited accomplishments.

fighter06 (Mar 23, 2006 10:39:19 AM)
Jim: Can you provide us a ball park of the total number of applicants this year?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:39:30 AM)
loed: in addition to your GPA, we look at the GMAT score and how you did in calculus. If you haven't taken calculus, we'd require it before enrollment.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:39:35 AM)
Fighter, I'm not willing to do that in this format.

fm (Mar 23, 2006 10:39:41 AM)
Soojin: Also, do we need to send the new test score through the GMAT service or can we send it by fax?

Yoanna012 (Mar 23, 2006 10:40:00 AM)
Jim: If you are an entrepreneur, would it be good that you tell the achievements of your company even when also other people contributed to them?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:40:14 AM)
Both. Fax your unofficial score to us but we will require an official score from GMAT as well.

Ishi (Mar 23, 2006 10:40:28 AM)
Soojin: Can you please advise if Citibank Loans will still be available to international applicants on the waitlist who get admitted?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:40:30 AM)
Absolutely. We are interested in individual accomplishments, as well as team achievements.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:40:46 AM)
Yes.

David S (Mar 23, 2006 10:40:52 AM)
Soojin: Why would you provide feedback to candidates that were immediately rejected, but not to those that were rejected after being on the waitlist?

dave (Mar 23, 2006 10:40:59 AM)
Jim: How would a waitlist applicant know that he or she has been rejected? Will the status be updated online?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:41:47 AM)
There will be no further updates on line. We will notify you via email if you are subsequently rejected or call you to let you know that you have been offered admission.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:42:01 AM)
Our feedback process is such that we select a number of rejected applicants to sign up for a short feedback session. That applicant can either sign up or decline feedback.

Mike Campbell (Mar 23, 2006 10:42:26 AM)
Jim: Are we allowed to re-write an essay?

Ming (Mar 23, 2006 10:42:31 AM)
Thanks Jim for the insights! "Redo an essay or two" is new!

NGOGUY (Mar 23, 2006 10:42:46 AM)
Soojin: How will construction at your school affect the yield from the waitlist?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:43:00 AM)
Yes. If you believe that you could have done a better job on any or all of the essays, you are free to rewrite and resubmit them.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:43:26 AM)
ngoguy: Construction should have no bearing on our offers of admission. It's yet to be seen how it affects our yield, but we don't think that is or should be a reason to make one's decision.

JMA (Mar 23, 2006 10:43:26 AM)
Jim: Regarding promotions at work, I was offered a promotion, but it was contingent upon me not going to b-school in the fall, obviously I could not accept it. Is there anyway to communicate this?

BH (Mar 23, 2006 10:43:40 AM)
Soojin: So the GMAT is the only test score that matters? Can the TOEFL score help your chance of being admitted as an international applicant?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:44:12 AM)
Yes. If you want to make us aware of promotions at work you can do so in an email or letter. Any professional updates are helpful.

Nova (Mar 23, 2006 10:44:24 AM)
Jim: Is there any special and specific advice for an international waitlisted applicant to make improvements - since it's tougher for us to make an impression with the admission office? Is the quota of admittance from the waitlist distributed by country?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:44:33 AM)
bh: I'm not sure why you got that impression with regard to the GMAT and TOEFL. I said it's only worth retaking if you think that was the reason you were waitlisted. It may or may not be for different people.

waitlistagony (Mar 23, 2006 10:45:09 AM)
Soojin: I was put on the waitlist because of my GMAT, and am taking it again but with work and some high level meetings coming up I am worried that I might not be able to improve my score. Will the effort be appreciated?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:45:34 AM)
WLagony: Effort is nice, but in the end, it's the score that counts.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:45:59 AM)
There is no quota of admissions from the waitlist by country. You were placed on the wait list for any variety of reasons. Those who do the best job in addressing concerns will have the best chance of admission, keeping in mind that it is not possible to admit everyone who is now on our waitlist.

MichiganMBA1 (Mar 23, 2006 10:46:07 AM)
Jim: Is early May the ABSOLUTE earliest that a waitlisted applicant can expect to hear back? Or is there a chance that some of us may hear back earlier than that?

fm (Mar 23, 2006 10:46:34 AM)
If the GMAT score is lower than before, do we need to disclose that information?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:46:53 AM)
Not really as it won't help your application.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:47:09 AM)
Early May is the earliest that we will start work on the wait list. The reason is that we expect to have decisions back from all of those who have already been offered admission by then. We can then determine how deeply we need to go into our wait list.

Dave Ward (Mar 23, 2006 10:47:12 AM)
Thank you for your time and the chance to participate in the chat-room.

MichiganMBA1 (Mar 23, 2006 10:47:36 AM)
Soojin: If we have completed an off-campus interview, and would like to visit campus and schedule an on-campus interview - would this be possible?

Nova (Mar 23, 2006 10:47:47 AM)
Jim: How do I evaluate which essay I should redo to improve? Is it usually the one that describes my special interest to Ross or all of them?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:48:06 AM)
No. Off-campus interviews are given equal weight to on-campus interviews and only one interview is granted per applicant in a two year period.

Ming (Mar 23, 2006 10:48:12 AM)
Soojin: Do you also put some over-qualified applicants waitlisted?

Yoanna012 (Mar 23, 2006 10:48:33 AM)
Jim: To enhance our application, would it be good if we send evidence with the information about new achievements? I mean photographs, documents, etc.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:48:44 AM)
ming: No, all qualified applicants are admitted.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:48:54 AM)
Nova - with regard to the essays, take at look at our questions again and try to determine what exactly we are looking for. If you conclude that you may have missed the boat on a question or two, you should redo them and resubmit them to us.

siems (Mar 23, 2006 10:49:15 AM)
Soojin: Let's just say that after an analysis of my application, I decided that my quant section is my area of weakness (for all purposes, let's just say I'm right and that my quant score is indeed a major contributor to my waitlist status). Would evidence of taking a quant class (statistics) and scoring well in the class be looked at in the same light as retaking the test?

VikramMBA (Mar 23, 2006 10:49:49 AM)
Jim: Can I just go ahead and do an interview with an alum in my area and update the adcom about it straight away?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:50:01 AM)
siems: A quant class and good grade in it would help but an improved gmat score will help more.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:50:08 AM)
Yoanna012 - Photographs and documents would not be helpful at this juncture. Just tell us about accomplishments.

jiji (Mar 23, 2006 10:50:12 AM)
Jim, Ross is my dream school. However, I have a few admits in peer schools. As I will be heading to school and may not ever have the opportunity again, I choose to leave my job and work full time for a non-profit that I have been involved with. Would this kind of move be viewed negatively?

konam (Mar 23, 2006 10:50:53 AM)
Soojin: Aside from retaking the GMAT, is there anything a student can do to demonstrate their quantitative and verbal skill/capability?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:51:39 AM)
If you have not completed the interview yet, it would be best to contact the admissions office in that regard. Our alumni interviewers are aware that the time for them to do interviews has passed. You probably would not get much help from them. Best you reach out to us, or wait for us to reach out to you.

Sri (Mar 23, 2006 10:51:49 AM)
Jim: Should recommendations come from superiors or are team members who have a more intricate understanding of your role more effective?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:51:52 AM)
konam: If you think your quant skills are the thing that holding you back, then aside from GMAT, successful completion of quant courses would help. But as I said earlier, a strong GMAT score would be more helpful.

Nova (Mar 23, 2006 10:52:18 AM)
Soojin: Can share some some examples of "significant work achievement"? Is a new job change counted favorably, for instance?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:52:37 AM)
JiJi - no, that kind of move would not be viewed negatively by the adcom. You have to get on with the kinds of things that bring you fulfillment.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:53:01 AM)
Nova: Some examples include a promotion, an award, the successful completion of a major project in which you had a significant impact

everwise (Mar 23, 2006 10:53:05 AM)
Soojin: Is the average GMAT score increased compared to last year?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:53:13 AM)
everwise: Yes.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:53:18 AM)
sri - Any new recommendations should come from those who are or have been in a position to evaluate your performance.

mib_india (Mar 23, 2006 10:53:35 AM)
Jim: Rejected applicants have a chance to get feedback in spite of being rejected; a waitlisted candidate doesn't even get that chance. Isn't this unfair?

Jason Banks (Mar 23, 2006 10:53:45 AM)
Soojin: So no online notification will be posted when the waitlist is officially closed?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:53:57 AM)
jason: No, we will email or call the applicants who are waitlisted.

rick2 (Mar 23, 2006 10:54:14 AM)
Soojin: When you evaluated GMAT scores for a particular individual who took the exam more than once, did you just take/consider the highest combined score or do you look at the highest math and highest verbal regardless if they were accomplished on the same exam?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:54:17 AM)
mib_india - if it turns out that you are subsequently rejected, you will have the opportunity to get feedback.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:54:41 AM)
rick2: We take the highest total score from one test date.

Mike Campbell (Mar 23, 2006 10:54:50 AM)
Jim: If you do resubmit an essay, is the previous one not considered, or are they both considered?

Liz Caldas (Mar 23, 2006 10:54:57 AM)
Soojin: I didn't realize that calculus was a requirement for consideration at Ross, as per your response to Leod. Did I understand this correctly?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:55:23 AM)
liz: Yes, a college level calculus course with a grade of "C" or better is a requirement for all enrollees.

MBA08 (Mar 23, 2006 10:55:37 AM)
Soojin: Should I send addition info in an e-mail body or as attachments?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:55:49 AM)
Mike Campbell - We review the second essay to see that any concerns raised by the first submission have been addressed. For example, have you clarified your goals and how the MBA fits?

Yoon_Shin (Mar 23, 2006 10:55:54 AM)
Jim: Will any additional essay for extra activities be welcomed?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:56:03 AM)
mba08: either is fine. If it's long, an attachment is probably better.

siems (Mar 23, 2006 10:56:22 AM)
Soojin: Is the only way to address a low quant score on the GMAT to retake the GMAT? I was recently given two highly quantitative projects at work and I'm currently taking a quant class through a top university. Will any of these help or is it the GMAT score in the end that will move me?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:56:32 AM)
Yoon_Shin - Absolutely. We pride ourselves on being a socially responsible institution.

Sri (Mar 23, 2006 10:56:50 AM)
Jim: Is there any advice for younger applicants? I feel my total number of years of work experience is my weakness. However I was a business owner throughout college; how does Ross evaluate entrepreneurs?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:57:19 AM)
siems: Yes, they will help but if your total GMAT score is below our 80% range of 640-740, then a GMAT retake might also help.

GuoChong (Mar 23, 2006 10:57:21 AM)
Soojin: Should we send all updates at once or send them when they are ready?

ScottW (Mar 23, 2006 10:57:30 AM)
Thank you for the responses to all these questions, this session has been very helpful.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:57:49 AM)
Sri - There is no absolute on required work experience. If you have less experience in terms of number of years, then you have to be sure that your essays effectively convey all that you have been able to accomplish.

Rushikesh (Mar 23, 2006 10:57:57 AM)
Jim: Would a recommendation by a current Michigan MBA student help? Would it prove negative in any way?

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 10:58:10 AM)
I may depend on the content of the letter.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:58:28 AM)
guo: Either is fine, but I'd generally recommend sending all at once (unless we're talking about test scores, which should be sent as soon as you have them.)

rick2 (Mar 23, 2006 10:58:38 AM)
Soojin: If we decide to remove ourselves from the waitlist, does this hurt our chances of reapplying later down the road?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:58:50 AM)
rick2: No.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 10:58:55 AM)
Rushikesh - an additional recommendation from a current Michigan MBA student would be helpful. We believe that our students would only recommend someone they believed could contribute.

IrishEyes (Mar 23, 2006 11:00:13 AM)
Soojin: What is the line between reiterating interest and becoming bothersome. I am very committed to Ross and am crafting a letter to indicate that but am unclear how much follow-up is 'proactive' vs. annoying beyond the initial letter. Thanks.

VikramMBA (Mar 23, 2006 11:01:31 AM)
Jim: Soo said that its not possible for applicants who could not arrange an interview as yet to schedule one now but Jim said that such applicants should let the adcom know their desire to interview. This is a little confusing. Could you please clarify?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:01:31 AM)
irisheyes: It's a matter of judgment. There's no magic formula.

Nadia (Mar 23, 2006 11:01:54 AM)
Soojin: If you take a statistics or calculus class to improve your quant potential, what is considered a "good" grade?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:02:18 AM)
nadia: A "B" is good. An "A" is better.

Yoon_Shin (Mar 23, 2006 11:02:48 AM)
Soojin: Is it possible to write a supplemental essay, not redo the existing essay?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:03:03 AM)
Vikram:MBA - You can reach out to the adcom to let us know of your interest in scheduling the interview. We will accommodate you if we can. Alternatively, if the missing interview is the only thing we need, we may reach out to you to get it scheduled. Hope that helps to clarify.

evanfeng (Mar 23, 2006 11:03:23 AM)
Jim: Can a high TOEFL score offset a lower verbal score of GMAT?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:03:37 AM)
yoon_shin: Yes - if you think it'll address the gap in your application but chances are, you were waitlisted because of one of the components you already submitted.

hoa (Mar 23, 2006 11:03:48 AM)
Soojin, what if my verbal section was my shortcoming and I don't get to retake it, what else can fix it?

Yoon_Shin (Mar 23, 2006 11:04:18 AM)
Jim: Do you mean additional recommendation should come from professional people? Is it possible from other person who just knows me well?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:04:19 AM)
evanfeng - a higher TOEFL score will alleviate any concerns about English capabilities and can offset to some extent a lower score in the verbal portion of the GMAT.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:04:21 AM)
hoa: Short of retaking the toefl or gmat, little can fix it at this point.

MichiganMBA1 (Mar 23, 2006 11:04:32 AM)
Jim: What is the next interaction that we will have with you for another Q&A session or an update?

Towers (Mar 23, 2006 11:04:48 AM)
Soojin: What if your school was pass/fail the first semester and you passed calculus, as denoted by a "satisfactory" grade?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:04:59 AM)
towers: A Pass is a Pass.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:05:18 AM)
Yoon-Shin - We would prefer that any additional recommendations come from people that you have reported to. Short of that, you would be providing character references. These are nice but not what we are looking for.

mib_india (Mar 23, 2006 11:05:59 AM)
Jim: Is it possible for me to come to USA by applying for a visa through another MBA school that accepted me and then, in the event of Ross accepting me, switch it over to Ross. Does the ISS at Ross consider such moves?

Mike Campbell (Mar 23, 2006 11:06:10 AM)
Soojin: Can we direct further waitlist questions to the same person we are communicating our application updates to? Or would it be best to refrain from asking them these questions?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:06:16 AM)
MichiganMBA1 - We have nothing organized or planned for future interaction. We hope you each will stay in touch individually while you are on the wait list.

Nova (Mar 23, 2006 11:06:25 AM)
Jim: If eventually we're rejected for this year, will a waitlist status impact my re-application to Ross next year? Negatively or Positively?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:06:56 AM)
Mike: If you're looking for individual feedback, we don't provide it at this point for waitlisted applicants. If you want to submit information, you can correspond with the person who signed your online decision letter.

Shiro (Mar 23, 2006 11:06:59 AM)
Soojin: Is there any way that I can know if my fax to show interest in staying on the waitlist has been reached you?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:07:27 AM)
mib_india - I would not endorse that as a strategy. I would wait until you have an offer from your school of choice and then come to the U.S. using the I-20 issued by that school.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:07:30 AM)
shiro: Per our website - confirmation of receipt will be provided within 7 - 10 business days.

Mike Campbell (Mar 23, 2006 11:07:34 AM)
Soojin: Would additional professional certifications help enhance our application?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:07:43 AM)
Mike: Probably not.

Rushikesh (Mar 23, 2006 11:08:07 AM)
Thanks a lot for hosting this session at the right time. It would indeed prove very valuable for all the waitlisted candidates.

Ishi (Mar 23, 2006 11:08:23 AM)
Soojin: I heard yes to two Y/N questions. Is it a yes, that international students on the waitlist who ultimately attend Ross will still have the Citibank loan available to them?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:08:35 AM)
ishi: Yes.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:08:41 AM)
Nova - being waitlisted this year will not negatively impact a reapplication next year. In fact, if you get rejected and get feedback on your application, and then respond to that feedback in your next application, there is a good probability of admission next year!

Nova (Mar 23, 2006 11:08:44 AM)
Soojin: What role does my industry background play in the waitlist status? If I would change to a different industry and get a position promotion, will you consider it as a positive sign of achievement or an unstable sign in career path?

hjlee75 (Mar 23, 2006 11:08:57 AM)
Jim: What are typical mistakes waitlist applicants make? In addition to calling or vesting the admissions committee mentioned above, what else do you recommend waitlisted applicants NOT do?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:09:02 AM)
Nova: You industry has little bearing on the decision.

Zahara Kassam (Mar 23, 2006 11:09:15 AM)
Soojin: What advice would you give to someone who has a low verbal score to increase their chances of getting in?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:09:30 AM)
Zahara: Retake either the GMAT or TOEFL.

MichiganMBA1 (Mar 23, 2006 11:09:44 AM)
Soojin: For the GMAT, do you pay closer attention to the quant score than verbal?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:09:55 AM)
michiganmba1: We pay attention to both.

karthik (Mar 23, 2006 11:10:06 AM)
Jim: Your personalized invitation to this chat session, the personalized greetings on the new year's eve, the down to earth approach of current Ross students to waitlisted candidates, all this makes this difficult waitlist process for us applicants that much more "worth it".

Towers (Mar 23, 2006 11:10:14 AM)
Soojin: I do not understand your response - is a pass then negatively/neutrally/positively viewed?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:10:32 AM)
hjlee75 - Common miscues include: too much follow up (pestering), not enough follow up (lack of interest); inappropriate follow up (pictures of family members, etc.); gifts.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:10:46 AM)
Towers: a "pass" from your school would be considered "pass" for our calculus requirement.

fm (Mar 23, 2006 11:10:48 AM)
Soojin, I passed out of college level calculus by scoring high on my AP Calc Exam in HS, but I still took the course in college. However, I did not perform as well in college. Do you consider the fact that I already passed out of this course in HS?

konam (Mar 23, 2006 11:10:57 AM)
Jim: If we are currently taking business related courses that highlight quantitative/verbal skill, but final grades won't become available until early/mid May, will the adcom consider the courses?

Ming (Mar 23, 2006 11:11:06 AM)
Do you think the people (around 120 waitlisted applicants here today) who are attending this chat session show more interests & commitment to Ross?

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 11:11:15 AM)
Absolutely!

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:11:58 AM)
Karthik - thank you. We want to be in a position to be a desirable place to study should you get admitted. Being on the wait list now is not necessarily a bad thing. You may be offered admission, and would be more likely to enroll if you feel okay about the way you have been treated.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:12:04 AM)
fm: Your AP exam plus your grade in college plus other quant courses plus the GMAT are considered in our review of your quant skills.

Rossapplicant (Mar 23, 2006 11:12:04 AM)
Thank you very much for holding this event. It is very helpful for me.

fm (Mar 23, 2006 11:12:10 AM)
Soojin, I passed out of college level calculus by scoring high on my AP Calc Exam in HS, but I still took the course in college. However, I did not perform as well in college. Do you consider the fact that I already passed out of this course in HS?

everwise (Mar 23, 2006 11:12:16 AM)
Jim: Is there any ideal age group you prefer?

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:12:40 AM)
Konam - Yes. Please send us transcripts for any courses you complete in the interim.

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 11:12:44 AM)
Jim, perhaps experience level would be another way to answer everwise's question.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:12:45 AM)
fm: Yes.

Ishi (Mar 23, 2006 11:12:56 AM)
You don't need to, but the adcom at Ross makes a conscious effort to be professional. I appreciate that!

info (Mar 23, 2006 11:13:05 AM)
Soojin: If I do plan to re-take my GMAT in the mid of April, is this too late to do?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:13:17 AM)
info: No, April's fine.

Mike Campbell (Mar 23, 2006 11:13:19 AM)
Thank you to everyone who asked very meaningful questions. Thank you for hosting this session. It is a tremendous help. Thank you.

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 11:13:23 AM)
You're most welcome.

GuoChong (Mar 23, 2006 11:13:32 AM)
Thank you, Jim and Soojin. This chat is great! Your answers are really helpful.

konam (Mar 23, 2006 11:13:45 AM)
Soojin: Does the adcom consider the AWA section of the GMAT section as an indicator of verbal skill/capability?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:13:50 AM)
Glad we can be helpful. We know it's hard to wait!

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:13:51 AM)
everwise - we normally recruit from the 25 - 34 age group, but there are exceptions to this every year. If you have a compelling story, and are outside of this range, your chances of admission are not diminished.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:14:11 AM)
konam: The AWA is one of the many indicators of verbal skills.

Cyprus (Mar 23, 2006 11:14:18 AM)
Indeed the session was really helpful! Thank you Jim and Soojin and hope to see you this fall! Thank you Linda for hosting the chat!

Zahara Kassam (Mar 23, 2006 11:14:25 AM)
Soojin: Since I studied at a University in the US I didn't take the TOEFL. Are there any classes that I can take that can help me?

Ana S (Mar 23, 2006 11:14:28 AM)
This session was very helpful to me. Thank you for your prompt answers and for your time!

Elena (Mar 23, 2006 11:14:46 AM)
Thank you for being available to answer all of these questions. I have not completed a college level calculus course, but plan to take one this summer if I am admitted. Will this detract from my being admitted if I don't take it before the fall? Thanks!

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 11:14:52 AM)
Thank you again all for participating this evening. Special thanks to Jim, and Soojin, for taking the time to virtually meet with you, provide this information, and make this process as transparent and humane as possible.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:14:56 AM)
zahara: If you went to undergrad in the U.S., we don't require additional English courses.

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 11:15:04 AM)
Remember to check out the Michigan waitlist FAQ. It is extensive and informative. Use it.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:15:24 AM)
Elena - The calculus class must be completed prior to the start of classes this fall.

MichiganMBA1 (Mar 23, 2006 11:15:31 AM)
Thank you ALL very much and good luck to all of us waitlisted students

Ishi (Mar 23, 2006 11:15:33 AM)
Linda, Jim, Soojin- Thanks...this was great!

IceMountain (Mar 23, 2006 11:15:39 AM)
Is it good to choose a different set of recommenders this time or use same people who recommended me earlier?

GuoChong (Mar 23, 2006 11:15:47 AM)
Thank you Linda.

BH (Mar 23, 2006 11:15:51 AM)
I still wonder if I could get a chance for an interview by contacting the adcom, and if I could, would it be with an alum or an adcom member, and if it would be over the phone? Thank you for the precious time and effort today.

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 11:15:55 AM)
You're all most welcome.

konam (Mar 23, 2006 11:15:56 AM)
Thanks to each of you for organizing this forum, it has been very helpful!

Ming (Mar 23, 2006 11:16:12 AM)
Appreciate your efforts here: Jim, Soojin and Linda! This also show the same interests of you in waitlist. ^_^

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:16:12 AM)
Ice Mountain - try to use different recommenders.

mib_india (Mar 23, 2006 11:16:26 AM)
Thanks Jim, Soojin and Linda!

Stefanie (Mar 23, 2006 11:17:01 AM)
I concur! This was extremely helpful. Thank you for your continued consideration!

Rossapplicant (Mar 23, 2006 11:17:04 AM)
Thank you very much. It is very helpful for me.

SoesHla (Mar 23, 2006 11:17:06 AM)
Many thanks for your time and for clearing things up, Jim and Soojin. I'm extra motivated now to work on my weaknesses to strengthen my application by early May! :)

NGOGUY (Mar 23, 2006 11:17:12 AM)
Do you call ALL admitted applicants?

Elena (Mar 23, 2006 11:17:36 AM)
Great - thanks very much!

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:17:43 AM)
NGOGUY - We call each admitted student.

Linda Abraham (Mar 23, 2006 11:17:57 AM)
Do reapplicants have to explain why they submitted Round 2 as opposed to Round 1? Does a Round 2 application hurt?

VikramMBA (Mar 23, 2006 11:18:54 AM)
If the applicant is indeed offered an opportunity to interview, would it be by alumni or adcom over the phone? I would rather a face to face interview over phone interviews.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:19:18 AM)
VikramMBA  - Any interviews from this point on in the process will be with the adcom. You can try to reach out to us to get it scheduled, but more likely we will reach out to those we are considering.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:20:14 AM)
Linda - No need to explain a round 2 versus round 1 application

VikramMBA (Mar 23, 2006 11:20:39 AM)
Jim: As you suggested that we should not "wait" I do not think there will be anything significant at my job in next two months. At the same time I don't want to give out impression that I am not interested in Ross. What do you suggest?

abhathakur (Mar 23, 2006 11:20:50 AM)
Is the international applicant pool a separate evaluation pool from the mainstream pool? Would it be fair to say that international applicants are competing for roughly 30% of seats instead of 100%?

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:21:29 AM)
abhathakur: International applicants are considered at the same time with domestic applicants.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:23:30 AM)
VikramMBA - There is something we need. Take a careful look at your responses to the essays, your GMAT score, etc. and then provide us with an update or occasional updates. You don't need to periodically contact us, just let us know how interested in Ross you are.

JimHayesROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:23:57 AM)
Gotta go now! Good luck to each and every one of you.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:23:58 AM)
ngoyguy: No, we don't call everyone.

SoojinKohROSS (Mar 23, 2006 11:24:12 AM)
Good luck to everyone!

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