Cornell Johnson Admissions Chat with Ann Richards
Cornell Johnson Admissions Chat with Ann Richards
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Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:04:28 PM)
Hello. My name is Linda Abraham. I am the founder of Accepted.com and the moderator of today’s chat. First I want to welcome all applicants to the Cornell Johnson chat today, and I want to congratulate you for taking the time to learn more about Johnson’s MBA program. To make a sound decision about where to apply and to get accepted, you need to know as much as you can about the schools you are applying to. Being here today allows you to ask the experts about this outstanding business school.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:04:40 PM)
I also want to welcome Ann Richards, Director of Admissions and Director of Financial Aid at the Johnson School, and Lisa Pastrick, Financial Aid Counselor. Unfortunately, Randall Sawyer cannot make it today, but Ann and Lisa bring each over 20 years of experience in admissions and financial aid.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:04:47 PM)
Thanks to everyone for joining. Welcome Lisa.
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:05:40 PM)
Hello, everyone, thanks for joining us today!
Bill Brasky (Dec 14, 2006 12:06:08 PM)
Ms. Richards, could you tell us whether interviews will still go out to R2 applicants whose status currently reads "Please check your status again on the decision deadline," or does that status indicate a rejection? I understand that quite a few R2 applicants are still waiting for interview invitations, and this might put some of us at ease.
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:07:08 PM)
Great question, Bill. We are working furiously to complete Round 2 applications. we will be sending interview invitations out through our posted deadline on Monday.
erica (Dec 14, 2006 12:07:24 PM)
Hi Ann, thank you for answering our questions today. I want to learn more about Cornell's culture. How would you characterize Cornell's student culture?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:07:42 PM)
We are planning to get all the files reviewed by Monday and interviews scheduled through out the next week or two.
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:07:47 PM)
Hi Erica, I would describe our culture as collaborative. We are a very tight knit community.
Tai (Dec 14, 2006 12:07:52 PM)
Lisa: Would using a family member who is a supervisor as a recommendation be a disqualifying factor? After he submitted the recommendation, I looked through some chat transcripts and saw that using a family member was "a big no-no" at Cornell. I only work with two supervisors and they are the ones who submitted my recommendation.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:08:17 PM)
Ann, do international applicants have to interview on campus?
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:09:10 PM)
Tai - It's probably not in your best interest to use a family member. It's hard for a family member to be impartial
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:09:28 PM)
Linda, International students do not need to interview on campus. We use alumni interviews throughout the world to interview. We also conduct telephone interviews.
Itai (Dec 14, 2006 12:09:28 PM)
Hi Ms. Richards, My name is Itai and I am an international applicant. I have just applied for round three. Could you please elaborate on the admission chances for R3 versus previous rounds? Johnson is definitely my top choice but unfortunately I could submit my application only in round three, as said. Thank you very much for your help, Itai
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:09:45 PM)
Lisa: Is it safe to assume that if one does not get an invitation by 12/18, that implies a rejection?
Anzhansen (Dec 14, 2006 12:12:11 PM)
Lisa: could you tell me about financial aid options?
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:12:25 PM)
SR - No, don't assume yours is a reject, we are working very hard to complete this round but will not have everyone reviewed by the 18th
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:12:53 PM)
Itai, There is always a lot of interest surrounding chances of being admitted based on the application round. Please don't worry - we'll have plenty of spaces left for applicants in each of our rounds.
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:13:01 PM)
Hi Ann, do you have an opinion regarding JGSM's decline in the Business Week rankings this year, yet applications are up?
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:13:40 PM)
That's reassuring, I suppose!
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:13:44 PM)
Anzhansen, we have a many options for scholarship and loans. Here is our website for more information. http://www.johnson.cornell.edu/academic/financialaid/
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:13:48 PM)
SR, our applications are up this year. I'm not sure what factors impacted our ranking. We are waiting for information from BW on the survey
Super99 (Dec 14, 2006 12:13:57 PM)
Lisa - is there any cutoff for interviews and decisions (i.e. if you interviewed by XX/XX/06, you should hear by 12/18)?
Itai (Dec 14, 2006 12:14:13 PM)
Hi Ms Richards, Another question if I may. I wanted to ask a question regarding Israeli applicants. As far as I know, currently not too many Israelis study at Johnson school (actually only one Israeli in the class of 2008 as far as I know). I wonder if you have any limit for the number of Israeli students in each class. Thanks again, Itai
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:15:14 PM)
Super99, because we're a little behind in round 2, there is no cutoff for those decisions. We should have all the files completed (decision or contacted about an interview) within a week.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:15:22 PM)
Ann: Johnson has so far had two submission deadlines. How does volume this year compare to last year?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:15:51 PM)
Itai, We don't have quota's or limits for country.
Anzhansen (Dec 14, 2006 12:16:25 PM)
Lisa: how many years work experience do you recommend?
Super99 (Dec 14, 2006 12:16:42 PM)
Itai (Dec 14, 2006 12:17:01 PM)
Thanks a lot, Ann
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:17:12 PM)
Anzhansen - although we don't require work experience it's always nice to see students with two years work experience.
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:17:24 PM)
Linda, our applications are up this year. The volume has been robust! Our first round applications were up 55%, round two applications were up by about 15% over last year.
abhiiparakh (Dec 14, 2006 12:17:45 PM)
Ann, Is there a different weight associated with campus interviews and phone interviews?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:18:22 PM)
No, Abhiiparakh, all interviews, regardless of how they are conducted are an important part of the final evaluation.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:18:46 PM)
That's a very impressive leap in volume.
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:18:52 PM)
Ann, how much emphasis does the adcom put into undergrad scores that are over 10 years old?
abhiiparakh (Dec 14, 2006 12:18:59 PM)
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:19:47 PM)
SR, we hope that someone who has been out of school for 10 years will have strengthened their work ethic regarding study habits!
Bill Brasky (Dec 14, 2006 12:19:57 PM)
To clarify, if my status reads, "Please check your status on the decision deadline" I might still receive an interview invitation?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:20:42 PM)
Bill, you may very well receive an interview invitation. We still have a number of files to go through.
abhiiparakh (Dec 14, 2006 12:21:27 PM)
Ann, does the school contact applicant recommenders during the admissions process? If yes, when?
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:21:39 PM)
Lisa, The Park program is a very attractive Cornell feature. Are interest and essays submitted for the Park Fellows program used as part of the admission decision? Or is that completely independent of the process?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:21:39 PM)
We will release decisions on Monday for those Round 2 applicants that we have completed. The remaining students will be contacted by us with an update of our processing estimate for this round.
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:22:26 PM)
SR - The Park Fellows program is an independent process.
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:22:32 PM)
Abhiiparakh, we do contact recommenders, usually during the summer, after a student has deposited.
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:22:39 PM)
Ann: Can you tell us a little about the Center for Sustainable Global Enterprise? Are people expressing interest in it as an immersion? Or is it still just a pilot?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:23:09 PM)
SR, the SGE immersion is a formal immersion program, it's no longer a pilot.
ttttt (Dec 14, 2006 12:23:13 PM)
what was the acceptance rate in R1?
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:24:13 PM)
Itai (Dec 14, 2006 12:24:18 PM)
Ann, is it acceptable that you send interview invitations before the deadline? I, personally applied for R3 about a month before the deadline and I wonder if there is any chance to get such invitation before R3 deadline. Thank you. Itai.
Tai (Dec 14, 2006 12:24:39 PM)
Lisa, what percentage of seats for the class do you think will still be available after Round 2?
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:24:54 PM)
Lisa, can you tell us a little about the process to evaluate applicants to the Park program?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:25:16 PM)
ttt, we admitted less than 30% of the applicants in round 1
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:25:59 PM)
Itai - we want to get through round 2 before we begin round 3.
ttttt (Dec 14, 2006 12:26:01 PM)
Johnson fell a bit in US News Rankings this year and significantly in Business Week - why do you think this happened and what is the school doing to change this pattern?
Itai (Dec 14, 2006 12:26:41 PM)
Thank you, Ann
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:26:47 PM)
Tai, there will still be plenty of seats left after round 2, ballpark about 50 percent
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:27:05 PM)
Ann: Other than the impressive Sage Hall renovation and the close-knit collaborative atmosphere, what would you say is the Johnson School's greatest attraction to today's MBA applicants?
erica (Dec 14, 2006 12:27:19 PM)
And a related question: What do you believe are Cornell´s core strengths? Besides being collaborative and tight-knit, how else would you describe the culture?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:27:43 PM)
Linda, we invite strong Park candidates to participate in a selection week-end that includes a team exercise and additional interview.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:28:14 PM)
I assume that weekend is by invitation only, correct?
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:28:30 PM)
Linda - yes, invite only
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:28:33 PM)
tttt, the Dean has created a task force to address our rankings. Students, alumni, staff, faculty and recruiters are all part of the process.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:29:02 PM)
Lisa, what advice can you give applicants who intend to seek financial aid in order to pay for their MBA?
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:30:45 PM)
Linda - prepare now by saving, get their budgets in order and search for outside scholarships
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:31:03 PM)
Lisa, what financial aid resources can students turn to other than the schools?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:31:18 PM)
SK and Erica, I think our performance learning process is one of the core strengths of the school. This is a thread that runs through the core, immersion courses, in the extracurriculars such as the Cayuga Fund, case competitions, etc.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:31:44 PM)
Can you tell us a little bit about the performance learning process? What makes it different?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:32:38 PM)
Linda, in performance learning, students are able to put into practice the theory they learn in class. It's really a hands-on type of experience.
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:32:59 PM)
Linda - they can visit our website to get outside links about scholarships such as Forte, Fulbright and the internet is a great source
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:33:01 PM)
Are the consulting projects?
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:33:38 PM)
Also do Cornell's immersion programs differ from concentrations or majors?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:34:02 PM)
Linda, many of our students feel the immersion course really prepared them for their summer internship. They get to experience real-world applications through consulting projects, live cases, shadowing managers, company visits. The immersion programs are essentially full-semester focus on a particular discipline. It's an opportunity to take a cluster of courses that marry theory with practice
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:34:52 PM)
Lisa, what are some of the differences between undergrad financial aid programs and grad financial aid programs?
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:36:06 PM)
Linda - undergrad is more need based and graduate is not. Plus graduates are independent, we don't look at parents info
ttttt (Dec 14, 2006 12:36:16 PM)
As far as I can tell Cornell is the only non Early Action/Early Decision school in the top 20 that makes admitted students submit a deposit in January - before many schools even respond for Round 1 - this seems a bit unfair to me - why does Johnson have such a policy?
abhiiparakh (Dec 14, 2006 12:36:44 PM)
Lisa, could you provide some information about the summer 2006 internships?
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:38:30 PM)
abhiiparakh - this begins in the spring, so far recruiters for summer 2006 internships look good.
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:39:00 PM)
tttt, I'm sorry you see this as unfair. It's not our intention to unfairly position our admitted students. We expect that students in the early rounds have a strong interest in the school and the deposit date allows us to begin the information flow to our new class early.
Inclined (Dec 14, 2006 12:39:14 PM)
Hi Ann, have all/most of the interview invites for R2 already been sent? My status says "Currently under Review" since Nov20th but nothing since then. I hope you can understand that I'm becoming increasingly worried with each passing day
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:39:31 PM)
Lisa: Other than the first semester when the core is heaviest, does the Johnson School encourage students to set up and run businesses during their 2 years? If so, what school resources are available to support that?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:42:09 PM)
Inclined, I'm sorry you haven't heard about your interview yet. We are running a little behind schedule. We'll be extending invitations to interview through the middle of next week. The interviews don't need to be completed by the middle of next week, it's just that we may not get all of the invitations sent out until then.
Guest (Dec 14, 2006 12:42:20 PM)
Hello, Does Cornell offer any feedback for waitlisted candidates? I applied in the 1st round and was waitlisted.
Bill Brasky (Dec 14, 2006 12:42:25 PM)
For students admitted in R2 after the decision deadline, will the deposit deadline be pushed back?
Aj (Dec 14, 2006 12:42:44 PM)
Ann, does Cornell offer feedback for waitlisted candidates? I applied in the 1st round and was subsequently waitlisted.
abhiiparakh (Dec 14, 2006 12:43:11 PM)
Lisa, could you kindly elaborate on how well students were able to convert internships into job offers while at Cornell?
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:43:52 PM)
Bill - we haven't decided but definitely will push back the deposit date if needed
Inclined (Dec 14, 2006 12:43:54 PM)
Thanks Ann and I do hope that I get that interview invite since Cornell is my top choice and I would really like to attend Johnson.
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:44:44 PM)
SR, we don't encourage or discourage students from running businesses during their time of study. I think students in the EPE immersion often start their business plans, they also use the Entrepreneurship Triad to work as consultants to emerging businesses
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:44:52 PM)
If you are looking at an application and the numbers and basic profile are in the ballpark for a Johnson student, what distinguishes an application that is accepted from one that is rejected?
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:45:40 PM)
abhiiparakh, a large number of second years came back with job offers but we don't have specific numbers. Please contact our Career Management Office, they would have specific numbers. Thanks
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:45:46 PM)
AJ, we do provide feedback for waitlisted candidates. Please contact Michael Corbett (firstname.lastname@example.org) to set up a feedback phone appointment.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:46:12 PM)
Ann, any general advice for waitlisted applicants at Cornell?
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:47:30 PM)
Lisa how should students evaluate different financial aid packages?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:48:14 PM)
Linda, great question. I think the things that make a candidate stand out are their focus - do they know why they're pursuing an MBA? - their fit with our program - why/how the Johnson School can help them attain their goals - and their passion for their program - have they reached out to current students, alumni, attended admissions events, etc.
erica (Dec 14, 2006 12:49:20 PM)
Hi Ann, if a student prefers to get a recommendation from a previous supervisor instead of their current supervisor because they know that the previous supervisor will write a better recommendation, is this okay with Cornell's Admissions?
abhiiparakh (Dec 14, 2006 12:49:24 PM)
Thanks Lisa, I will.
LisaPastrickCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:49:58 PM)
Linda - they want to look at the overall cost to the program and look at their own resources, what they can offer.
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:50:33 PM)
erica, it's fine to get a recommendation from a previous supervisor. I always encourage applicants to explain in the options essay why they chose someone other than an immediate supervisor for a recommendation, but it shouldn't hurt your application.
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:50:44 PM)
Do you have any idea how many people design their own custom immersion? As opposed to taking on one of the already-established categories?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:52:25 PM)
SR - it varies from year to year, but roughly about 20% of the students will customize their immersion.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:52:57 PM)
Ann: A few schools, notably Wharton and UCLA have decided to reach out to early-career applicants, those with less than two years of experience. Is Cornell Johnson doing so too?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:53:43 PM)
SR - you had a question about the mix of students this year - we are seeing a very balanced application pool - applicants with a variety of work experiences and backgrounds.
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:55:48 PM)
Linda, we don't have a work-experience requirement. In the past couple of years we have admitted a handful of students (5-15) with no or very limited work experience. Applicants without work experience should demonstrate strength in other areas of their application and be able to explain how they will contribute to the classroom.
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:55:51 PM)
thanks for all this feedback!
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:56:54 PM)
It's been a pleasure chatting with everyone. Please don't hesitate to contact me or others in the admissions office if you have questions.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:57:27 PM)
One last question from me: How is recruiting going this year? Were salaries up for 2005 Cornell Johnson grads?
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:58:40 PM)
Thank you again all for participating today. Special thanks to Ann and Lisa for joining us at this busy times of year..
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:58:52 PM)
We look forward to seeing you at future chats, and here is a list of the current scheduled chats:
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:58:59 PM)
Insead: January 18 London Business School: January 22
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:59:00 PM)
Career recruiting was good for the class of 2006. I don't have the stats in front of me, but I do know that the average salary was up this year, and over 90% of the students had offers at graduation.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 12:59:03 PM)
Please check the Web site for details and exact time, because we are varying our chat times this year to facilitate attendance from applicants in different time zones.
SR (Dec 14, 2006 12:59:10 PM)
This is very helpful. It's going to be a tough week waiting for R2 to close!
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 12:59:50 PM)
SR - we'll do our best to notify you as soon as possible. I'm going back to my files right now!
Mj (Dec 14, 2006 1:00:03 PM)
Also, how about internship offers? Has there been a rising trend in those too?
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 1:00:48 PM)
Mj, Internship recruiting will begin after the first of the year, early indications from our recruiters look good, though.
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 1:01:01 PM)
Best wishes for a Happy and Healthy Holiday! Good luck with your applications!
AnnRichardsCornell (Dec 14, 2006 1:01:37 PM)
Thanks everyone, it's been a pleasure! Feel free to contact us with any questions!
Linda Abraham (Dec 14, 2006 1:03:02 PM)
Check the Cornell Johnson zone on Accepted.com: http://www.accepted.com/zones/CornellJohnson.aspx .