2005 IMD MBA Admissions Chat with Janet Shaner
2005 IMD MBA Admissions Chat with Janet Shaner
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Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:16:33 AM)
Walter, can you tell us a little about yourself? What did you do before IMD? What are you doing now?
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:16:51 AM)
Actually, congratulations on your recent graduation! Walter is a member of IMD's class of 2004.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:17:01 AM)
I just graduated from IMD last week. Before that I was consulting for 6 years in the US. I will start with a start-up consulting company in Zurich in January.
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 10:17:41 AM)
How were this year's placements Walter?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:18:05 AM)
Placement overall was very good. After IMD, generally people take some time to make sure they make the right decision. I think almost everyone had at least one offer - many had multiple, but are holding out for their DREAM.
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 10:18:39 AM)
Great...I also plan to move into consulting after graduation.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:18:51 AM)
How did you choose IMD?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:19:02 AM)
Consulting was well represented this year - all the big strategy firms gave offers.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:19:36 AM)
That is a good question. I was looking for a non-traditional MBA program as I did my undergrad in 'business'. IMD was a one year program - the participants were older, much more experienced than other schools and the focus on leadership and teamwork seemed more than just 'hubba hubba'. And it was a lot more!
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:21:09 AM)
Did it meet your expectations? Where did it exceed them? Where did it fall short?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:21:41 AM)
The leadership steam is very intense and surpassed my expectations. Everyone has the opportunity to work with an analyst (partners too) and for many of us it was a huge growth experience - very accelerated I would say.
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 10:22:15 AM)
Can you share your experience about the Bosnia trip? It must have been a great learning experience.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:23:09 AM)
Bosnia...honestly that was not one of my personal highlights. It was a fascinating trip but I was familiar with the region already. For many people it was a highlight.
jahays (Dec 7, 2004 10:23:50 AM)
What area did you focus on in your curriculum at IMD?
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:23:58 AM)
Would you say that IMD is a school better suited to those who already have a decent formal business foundation?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:24:35 AM)
You do not need a formal business education - in fact many people at IMD come because they stumbled into business 'by accident' and were successful but now want to beef up on some of the basics.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:25:02 AM)
Hi Linda, sorry to all for the delay.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:25:18 AM)
The curriculum in very 'general management'. The focus is on leadership and team work and it is taken VERY seriously. All work is done in teams. You do not specialize at IMD - with the exception of some electives at the end, all 90 students take every class together!
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:25:24 AM)
Hi Janet! Welcome.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:25:51 AM)
OK. Although Walter has been doing a great job answering questions, let's formally start and introduce the IMD reps.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:26:05 AM)
I want to welcome you all to Accepted.com's International MBA Admissions Chat and the IMD room.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:26:18 AM)
I also want to welcome Janet Shaner, Director of MBA Marketing, and Walter Renfree, member of the IMD class of 2004.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:27:43 AM)
Janet, if you are looking at an application and the numbers and basic profile is in the ballpark for an IMD student, what distinguishes an application that is accepted from one that is rejected?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:28:11 AM)
We look for these key features in an IMD applicant - International experience, an international outlook, leadership experience, teamwork and the ability to contribute something unique to the class.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:28:18 AM)
Walter, you were just telling us about the project you worked on...
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 10:28:27 AM)
Hi Janet. When would the application for 2006 be uploaded on the website?
mebasen (Dec 7, 2004 10:28:37 AM)
I noticed while looking through the materials and the Business Week report that on average most candidates and students tend to be slightly older than those of other top-notch business schools, is there a particular reason (i.e. because IMD prefers older students), or has the class layout just happened to fall out that way?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:29:27 AM)
Hi Bittu, The 2006 application should be uploaded now. Our first deadline is 1 Feb.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:30:01 AM)
Walter probably talked about the fact that the program focuses on leadership. We find that with our program, it's more mature participants who contribute most and get the most out of the program.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:30:31 AM)
Walter - how would you respond to that?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:30:32 AM)
Hi mebasen, yes the profile is older - the average work experience is +7 years. You really learn from one another in the classroom. Each of the 90 students is chosen for a specific reason - something that he/she will contribute that is unique. The work experience almost always includes international work as well.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:31:08 AM)
Janet do you have ages or levels of experiences above which or below which you will not consider applicants?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:31:28 AM)
Our experience typically ranges from 3-10 years. Above or below that, we look for people who will really contribute something unique to the program.
Jaaj (Dec 7, 2004 10:31:50 AM)
Janet, with an acceptance ratio of 1:10 applications, do you categorize incoming students based on country of origin?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:32:44 AM)
No categories at all. We look for the best class of 90 each of whom will contribute something unique. We look for diversity in terms of nationality, work experience, industry, etc.
mebasen (Dec 7, 2004 10:32:46 AM)
When dealing with maturity however, wouldn't you agree that it isn't always age/post-college experience, but generally also street smarts & business smarts? (i.e. went to business school undergraduate, lots of internships, all around business knowledge)
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:33:28 AM)
Yes of course - all of those contribute to your maturity.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:33:36 AM)
Mebasen, that is a complex question. I would agree that age does not equal maturity, but nor does street smarts (can be helpful though).
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 10:33:43 AM)
Are the number of candidates who represent a region...say Asia or Europe fixed? For example, you will not admit more than 10 candidates from Asia?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:34:16 AM)
We look for diversity in our class, so we would never have 90 from the same region, for example, but we don't have any fixed numbers. We look for the best class of 90.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:34:45 AM)
Back to the maturity question - I think most of us that go to IMD are typical 'over-achievers' and think that we are mature. Most of us realize during the year that we have only hit the tip of the iceberg.
Eric_Oslo (Dec 7, 2004 10:35:04 AM)
I have 7 years of experience and I am currently 37 years old. Would my age be a problem for potential employers after an eventual MBA?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:35:25 AM)
To Janet's point, IMD says it does not take the best 90 students, but the best group of 90. I can attest to this being true.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:35:39 AM)
That is a good way to look at it.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:36:08 AM)
Eric, the answer is, it depends on your employers and the job you are seeking.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:36:30 AM)
Eric, I had a fellow student this year who is in your age group and he did find it difficult, particularly with the on campus recruiting as the companies are often looking for a certain profile. Having said that ,he would definitely say that he is glad he came to IMD.
Mitchell (Dec 7, 2004 10:36:41 AM)
What are the top 4 or 5 criteria, in order of importance, that IMD looks for in a candidate?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:37:11 AM)
We look at the total package of you - so no order of importance in criteria. What we look for: international experience, leadership capabilities, career progression, solid recommendations, intellectual ability and work experience.
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 10:37:25 AM)
May sound very obvious but what was the average GMAT score for the class of 2005?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:38:00 AM)
The average GMAT score for Walter's class of 2004 was 680.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:38:02 AM)
Janet, IMD has a demanding and extensive interview process described on your Web site at http://www01.imd.ch/mba/index.cfm?page_id=264&site_id=3723&node=6 . I have also read about it in the Accepted.com MBA Admissions Feedback Database ( http://www.accepted.com/mba/interviewfeedback.aspx ). How do you use the interview in the evaluation process?
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:38:13 AM)
BTW, one of the students who filled out a post-interview questionnaire commented on the admissions staff: "The Best Adcom in the world - PERIOD."
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:38:27 AM)
Wow. Very nice review! Our interview process is extremely rigorous, but it also is a selling point as people say if we spend that much time on admissions the participants must be good. For us the interview is the critical piece to understand what you will contribute and what you will get out of the IMD MBA. And will you contribute to this best class of 90.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:38:45 AM)
I must say that I was thoroughly impressed by the admissions process. That really set the tone for the year.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:39:30 AM)
Walter, what do you like best at IMD? What would you like to see improved?
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:39:55 AM)
What are you looking for during that long day?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:40:42 AM)
Best: 89 amazing other people and a program with an intensity level that you leave better friends than with anyone else in your life! Hard to imagine but it's true. The resources on campus are great, Lausanne is an amazing place to live and you actually get to enjoy it a bit once summer hits... Worst: 4.5 hours of sleep a night.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:41:09 AM)
I think Lausanne is actually the most beautiful place I've been (and I'm from northern California!).
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:41:37 AM)
In the interview process we have 3 pieces: a personal interview, an impromptu presentation and a case study. We look for several things: what will you contribute, can you respond under pressure, can you work in a team.
Eric_Oslo (Dec 7, 2004 10:41:52 AM)
Does it mean that employers are looking only for people in certain age range? If so, why bother investing in an MBA? May be it is too late for me?
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 10:42:46 AM)
Janet, is the case study done in groups with candidates forming teams?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:43:10 AM)
Eric, doing an MBA (especially one like IMD) must be a very personal decision and you need to make sure you are doing it for the right reasons. If it is the right decision then you will find something afterwards. It's true that the on campus efforts are geared towards the 30-32ish age range, those who could be CEO by 45.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:43:10 AM)
Eric - you should investigate the MBA options, perhaps executive MBAs as well. For example our EMBA average age is 38. You should also look for programs where you will learn from your peers. In the end, you are responsible for selling yourself to employers.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:43:55 AM)
bittu, the case study is done in a team during the interview day.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:44:02 AM)
Walter: What has been your not-to-be missed class? Who has been your best professor?
Jaaj (Dec 7, 2004 10:44:21 AM)
Janet, would it be okay to get all the 3 recommendations from one's work? Some traits of a candidate could then overlap. Would that be an issue?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:44:38 AM)
Funny question - as actually you don't really miss any classes (we are on Swiss time after all...)
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:45:01 AM)
OK. What classes did you most enjoy?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:45:01 AM)
But my favorite professors would be Didier Cossin - Finance, AMAZING guy. Ready for a Nobel Prize. Sean Mehan, the director, teaches marketing. That was an intense class that I enjoyed. He kept everyone on their toes.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:45:04 AM)
For recommendations, it's best to get people who know you. They can all be from work - just make sure that the recommenders can comment on your abilities.
mebasen (Dec 7, 2004 10:45:15 AM)
I am 24 and have 3 years (post undergraduate Business) work experience plus several internships at multinational firms; would that make it hard or place me at a disadvantage if I went to IMD when competing against other students?
Tetyana (Dec 7, 2004 10:45:20 AM)
I'm aware that "younger" applicants are encouraged to apply. What is the percentage of applicants with 24 years age and below?
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 10:45:31 AM)
Walter, how tough would it be to move to consulting after 10 years in manufacturing & software?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:46:17 AM)
bittu, the majority of graduates in the last few years have changed, 1. location, 2. industry, and 3. role. So it is DEFINITELY possible.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:46:38 AM)
Tetyana, we had none below 26 I think.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:47:37 AM)
mebasen, in your case we would look for maturity that you've shown in all of your experiences. The IMD MBAs are a tough crowd and it's important that you have good experience to contribute.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:47:44 AM)
There are a few members of the class with 3 years of experience - there are not many and they had some exceptional value I would say that they brought to the class. For example, we had several students with PhDs who had only 3-4 years work experience in 'business' but were 30 years old.
Tetyana (Dec 7, 2004 10:48:13 AM)
Thanks, Walter. What was the intake ratio of the applicants during the last enrollment? Thanks.
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 10:48:19 AM)
Janet, does IMD encourage reapplicants?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:48:24 AM)
Tetyana, we look for a minimum of 3 years of work experience which may be just at 24. I don't know an exact percentage, but I would think it's fairly low.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:48:54 AM)
Tetyana, I believe the intake number is about 1 in 10.
Jaaj (Dec 7, 2004 10:48:54 AM)
Walter, I heard Sean Mehan at an IMD meet in New York. I bet his class would be very cool indeed.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:49:28 AM)
Bitu, it depends on your situation. If you were declined because you needed more international experience and now you have it, great. If nothing has really changed, we encourage it less.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:49:45 AM)
Janet, what percentage of accepted students was accepted each round? Is there an advantage to applying in different rounds?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:49:52 AM)
Jaaj, he is famous for cold calling - he knows exactly who to call in. I can promise you that no one is late for his class and that when he enters you can hear a pin drop. By the end of the year our relationship with him lightens up a great deal - but he is responsible for the 'brand' and has to make sure that everyone who got in really should be there. The admissions process is just the first step. It only gets harder once you are in. Don't mean to scare you but you must go in with your eyes wide open. This is not like any other MBA program.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:50:42 AM)
It's always better to apply early, but we accept participants from all deadlines. There's no specific percentage accepted each round - it really depends on the candidates.
mebasen (Dec 7, 2004 10:51:00 AM)
Walter, did you find it to be more beneficial to wait a few years post undergrad before going back to get your MBA at IMD as opposed to jumping the gun and going early? (granted I have no idea how old you are). I guess this is important since I can hold my own, but how would my peers view my "lack of age"?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:51:44 AM)
Getting work experience before your MBA is critical. How much experience depends on you and when you feel it's the right time to do your MBA.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:51:47 AM)
mebasen, I am 30. I worked for 6 years between undergrad and IMD - there is a minimum of 3 years of work experience - as far as I know that is a pretty hard and fast rule. No one is admitted without real world experience.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:52:04 AM)
Janet, do you provide feedback to rejected applicants?
Mel (Dec 7, 2004 10:52:11 AM)
For Walter - what was your favorite IMD experience outside of the classroom, (i.e. entrepreneurship project, international consulting project or dynamic learning)?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:52:38 AM)
If they contact us and request it, yes our Admissions Director will discuss an application with rejected candidates.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:53:13 AM)
Janet, is there any advice that you have specifically for applicants from the US? From other parts of the world?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:53:33 AM)
The ICP (international consulting project) was an amazing experience for me. And I come from consulting! I was in a team of 5 - an Indian, Ukrainian, Russian, and another American. As different personality-wise as you can imagine and a totally dysfunctional international client. We traveled to 6 countries - basically on the group for 6 weeks and delivered tremendous value to the client. The other American was actually with me today in Zurich as she is in final rounds for a job reporting to the CEO.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:53:53 AM)
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:53:54 AM)
And I can tell you it's a nice offer.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:53:54 AM)
Linda, I would advise all applicants to be themselves. Show us what you have to contribute and be clear about your career goals and how an IMD MBA will help you achieve those goals.
mebasen (Dec 7, 2004 10:54:04 AM)
Thanks so much Walter & Janet! Last question; how can we get in touch with you at a later time should we have some personal follow-up questions?
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:54:24 AM)
Janet, what is the role of the essays in the evaluation process? Do they earn you the interview?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:54:33 AM)
For now you can still reach me at email@example.com .
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:54:36 AM)
You may contact me at firstname.lastname@example.org . I'm happy to help with any follow up.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:55:14 AM)
Your essays are read by 2 members of the admissions committee who make a recommendation on whether or not we should ask you for an interview.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:56:01 AM)
Walter, what do you wish you would have done before starting your MBA that would have made the beginning/transition easier? Did you do anything especially effective that helped you?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:56:21 AM)
The entire process is very professional. You will get a personal call if something is not complete and most importantly when you get in, you get a personal call too! (I was in California and it was 2 AM in the morning). I wasn't sure if it was a dream when I woke up in the morning. =)
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:56:51 AM)
Janet, does IMD offer financial aid for international students? Does its loan program require a co-signor?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:57:35 AM)
Give yourself some down time before starting IMD. I made the mistake of working right up until the end of December. The beginning is so intense, everyone will tell you this and you think you are ready...but you just can't be. But you'll survive - just have a rest, take in a beach holiday, read some books for fun (you won't be able to the whole year) go see some movies (you won't be able to the whole year) go shopping...you get the drift!
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:57:48 AM)
We offer financial aid to participants with need. For American students, we request that you first apply to the IEFC program who I believe does require a cos-ignor.
Mel (Dec 7, 2004 10:58:00 AM)
How important do you consider the essay scores on the GMAT?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:58:37 AM)
We look primarily at the verbal and quant scores with the essay scores probably a lower consideration.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:58:37 AM)
Walter, since you were not living in Switzerland prior to the start of school, what would have made your adjustment to a new culture easier?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:58:48 AM)
Mel, I remember how traumatizing the whole GMAT experience is - but once it's over you never think of it ever again!
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 10:59:01 AM)
Janet, do you have any suggestions for students about to start at IMD?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:59:11 AM)
I was living in Geneva the 3 years prior to starting IMD (just worked a lot in the US...consulting gigs!)
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:59:32 AM)
Follow Walter's advice; get some rest and be prepared for a great challenge that you will remember for the rest of your life.
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 10:59:37 AM)
Walter, do consulting firms offer vertical placements based on past experience?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 10:59:59 AM)
Honestly the adjustment is not that easy for folks who have not lived abroad for a while. The good thing is everything in Switzerland works...but if you don't speak French, it can be a bit of a challenge (sometimes people seem to be not nice...they actually are once you get to know them.) You don't' really 'integrate' into the Lausanne community - IMD is very much in a bubble - but it doesn't pretend to be anything more. For example, the first 6 months you are basically in class when all stores/shops/posts are open etc...
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:00:50 AM)
I was reviewing the IMD web site in preparation for today's chat and was struck by how different the curriculum at IMD is. I didn't see "Economics," or "Accounting" or "Finance," etc. I realize you use the case method extensively and I know it can be a fine learning tool, but how are those functions taught?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:01:23 AM)
bittu, the McKs of the world make you come in at consultant position - one above analyst. There doesn't seem to be much room around this.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:01:57 AM)
Does IMD assume that you know them or will learn them on your own?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:01:59 AM)
We have all those classes. They are part of the 'core building blocks' taught in the first 6 months. There is a great deal of emphasis placed on leadership, organizational development and finance (in my opinion), which is on the money for future general managers. If you skim through the 50+ professors at IMD (and we are 90 students) you'll see that more than half of them are leadership/OB professors. The school is serious about the 'soft' side. If you really want finance go to LBS, marketing go to Kellogg, etc.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:02:39 AM)
And we enhance them by focusing on 4 real world projects where you can apply what you've learned in the classroom. We also take the whole class to Bosnia so you can see what it's like to lead in a difficult business environment.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:04:09 AM)
OK, so those classes are simply part of what I saw as the Core. That sounds like a difficult environment.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:04:40 AM)
Walter, how much opportunity did you have to interact with professors outside of class?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:05:07 AM)
Ralf Bolchek is our economics professor - and is one of those guys who is so brilliant and lives on another planet - and you just feel honored to have him 'come down to our level'....for the economics class. Truly and amazing experience.
Jaaj (Dec 7, 2004 11:05:54 AM)
Janet, if invited to the interview, one would know whether he/she gets in or not at the end of three days. Is that right?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:06:14 AM)
Professors outside of class - very much up to you, but they are generally very approachable - you normally need to make the effort. Some who are specialized may reach out to those with the same background (like finance, operations etc.) but basically it's up to you. We invite all the faculty to our parties and many of them come.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:06:22 AM)
Once you've been to an interview, normally within 2 weeks we let you know your admissions decision.
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 11:06:38 AM)
Janet, typically how many candidates are called to interview on a single day?
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:06:54 AM)
Normally there are about 6 people interviewing on any 1 day.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:07:12 AM)
I am going to start with a company called a-connect (www.a-connect.com) which has a unique business model for strategy consulting. I was doing CRM strategy work before - so this will be very different - much more on the people and networking side.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:07:36 AM)
bittu, on the day I interviewed, 5 out of the 4 people interviewed were accepted.
Mitchell (Dec 7, 2004 11:07:56 AM)
How long does it take to hear from IMD from submission of the application to when you would extend an interview invitation?
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 11:07:58 AM)
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:08:38 AM)
Mitchell, I don't know the exact timing but whatever is published they stick to. It is in Switzerland after all. The interview is really worth the trip. I had interviews with alumni at two other schools that I felt was ultimately a waste of my time and money for the travel expenses. Not so with IMD - it's worth the haul to Lausanne.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:08:47 AM)
Mitchell normally it takes 6 weeks from an admissions deadline until we invite you for an interview. Then 2 weeks after the interview until you get your decision.
rupin (Dec 7, 2004 11:10:10 AM)
Does IMD want people to stay in one company for long durations, as in 3-4 years to enable better assessment of their professional capabilities?
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:10:46 AM)
What a great excuse for a trip to Switzerland!
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:10:59 AM)
Rupin, not necessarily - what is important is the contributions you made where ever you were. If you can make significant contribution in short period of time, that is pretty impressive actually.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:11:07 AM)
Rupin we look for solid career progression and solid recommendations. We don't look for a particular path within a company to achieve that.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:11:51 AM)
I can speak for my class, in that members had radically different 'career path's - many having never used that expression before. Nonetheless they were all very successful at whatever it was they chose to do.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:12:42 AM)
Speaking of Switzerland, a lot of graduates actually stay in Switzerland. I think we'll be a good half dozen in Zurich alone. After such an intense experience it's good to have that kind of 'secure' base, at least for me!
rupin (Dec 7, 2004 11:14:11 AM)
Many thanks- if I'm also trying a business venture alongside my full time job, do you think it would be worth mentioning it in the application even if it doesn't turn out to be successful?
Jefe Juan (Dec 7, 2004 11:14:32 AM)
Do Geneva-based NGOs / International Organizations recruit at IMD?
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:14:40 AM)
Something else maybe to keep in mind as you think of IMD - to really get your value, you need to go in ready to do some real work on YOU. Personal growth is not fun or easy. It is really really hard - but in the end the rewards are tremendous. You need a very open mind coming in as we all think we are already 'self-aware'.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:15:25 AM)
Rupin, yes definitely worth mentioning in your application - entrepreneurship is an important part of leadership as evidenced by our entrepreneurship projects in the course.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:15:30 AM)
Jefe Juan, I found out today that a fellow graduate just got an offer from the World Economic Forum (his dream job) - the NGO that organizes the Davos meetings annually, amongst other activities.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:15:44 AM)
WEF is in Geneva (very posh place too.) Another student got an offer from the World Trade Org in Geneva too, but turned it down. There are also several alumni at places like the Olympic Committee Headquarters which happens to be in Lausanne.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:17:34 AM)
Thank you all for participating today. Special thanks to Janet and Walter.
Jefe Juan (Dec 7, 2004 11:17:39 AM)
bittu (Dec 7, 2004 11:17:40 AM)
Thanks, Janet, Walter & Linda.
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:17:42 AM)
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:17:44 AM)
We look forward to seeing you at future chats, and here are the upcoming scheduled chats:
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:17:56 AM)
Tuck: Dec. 15 Chicago GSB: Jan. 4
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:18:00 AM)
Thanks for being here! Don't hesitate to contact us with more questions.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:18:04 AM)
Please check the Web site ( http://www.accepted.com/chat/schedule.aspx#mba ) for details and exact time, because we are varying our chat times this year to facilitate attendance from applicants in different time zones.
Jaaj (Dec 7, 2004 11:18:09 AM)
Thank You Janet and Walter. The session was truly informational.
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:18:18 AM)
Janet, would you like to post a URL or e-mail address again?
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:18:33 AM)
Good luck with your applications!
WalterRenfreeIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:18:33 AM)
For me - email@example.com
Linda Abraham (Dec 7, 2004 11:18:38 AM)
You're most welcome.
JanetShanerIMD (Dec 7, 2004 11:18:44 AM)
Email address: firstname.lastname@example.org . Our url is www.imd.ch/mba . We look forward to speaking with you more. Information about Accepted.com's consulting and Editing Services